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  •  The problem with the Washington map (1+ / 0-)
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    Englishlefty

    (And those in Minnesota and Colorado) is that the districts with the central cities are over-packed with Democrats even though there is no VRA reason to do so. If McDermott could satisfy himself with a district where Obama got 60% instead of 80+%, it would make drawing the rest of the state a lot easier.

    •  I blame traditions. (2+ / 0-)
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      atdnext, Englishlefty

      In Colorado, it's tradition to never split Denver.  In Washington, it's tradition to never split Seattle (although they did a little bit this time by giving some of the south side to Adam Smith).

      "Each player must accept the cards life deals him or her: but once they are in hand, he or she alone must decide how to play the cards in order to win the game." -Voltaire

      by KingofSpades on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 11:13:01 PM PST

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    •  The problem with the 7th (2+ / 0-)
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      Englishlefty, James Allen

      Is there isn't really anywhere to unpack it to. Any non-baconriffic way of splitting Seattle results in just spreading a super-blue city into heavily blue suburbs. We wouldn't get substantial unpacking under either a commission or a court map, which are our options in the state. The bigger problem is Smith and Larsen getting sqeamish after 2010 (and Denny Heck having friends), and the Democratic commissioners caring more about that squeamishness than protecting Democratic interests in the 1st and the 8th.

      •  also (1+ / 0-)
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        there are limits in the region because of the islands and where bridges are.  You can use ferries, and have to in some places, but they really tie one's hands.

        ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

        by James Allen on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 12:45:26 PM PST

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        •  Yeah, in my D gerrymander of WA (1+ / 0-)
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          It was hard to gerrymander out McDermott's seat.  I finally got it to one that goes out int the red counties just east of King and then shoots back to take in almost all of Lewis County.

          "Each player must accept the cards life deals him or her: but once they are in hand, he or she alone must decide how to play the cards in order to win the game." -Voltaire

          by KingofSpades on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 01:52:14 PM PST

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    •  But that would lead... (1+ / 0-)
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      To some unintended consequences that at least many on the front page wouldn't like. If WA-07 were as diluted as you'd like, that seat would likely be filled by a more moderate Dem (like Suzan DelBene or Adam Smith).

      In addition, would Seattle really get proper representation from a crew of (likely suburban based and more moderate) Dems representing bits and pieces of the city instead of having 2 Dems with large chunks of the city (as it is now)?

    •  McDermott doesn't decide what the map looks like (0+ / 0-)

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 12:44:40 PM PST

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