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  •  I search and (3+ / 0-)

    since I am steeped in this tradition I search through this religion.  Mostly I tell priests and anyone else that the Church doesn't get to own my soul, tell me how or what to do and they don't get to make my decisions.  They should be there to guide and support not run anyone's life.  We are free which they seem to forget.  Their examples render them unable to lead.  They are not  the Church, we are.  They cannot ruin us, they can only ruin their hierarchy and themselves.  My contributions are not monetary.  Untill I see responsible and humble use of the monies I will not give a dime.  I support my small parish with my labor and talents. We will find our own way and I will search till I am satisfied.  I like to be with the Sacred, wherever and whatever it is.  That is my search.  This latest tantrum is the tail end of any political power a church has in the western world.  The days of their influence are over.  If they want to participate in our democracy they are going to have to follow the rules and laws.  

    Everyone! Arms akimbo!

    by tobendaro on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 07:46:58 AM PST

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    •  Primacy of conscience (2+ / 0-)
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      is a well established Catholic principle:

      Catholic Catechism

      1782 Man has the right to act in conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. "He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters."

      We are the principled ones, remember? We don't get to use the black hats' tricks even when it would benefit us. Political Compass: -6.88, -6.41

      by bmcphail on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 09:28:59 AM PST

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      •  funny that they don't allow (1+ / 0-)
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        people to act according to their conscience when it comes to women's health and birth control.

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 10:32:29 AM PST

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        •  They have no way of not allowing it. (1+ / 0-)
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          They just want to bullly people into action or non action.  That bullying is the crux of their incredulity.  It in no way resembles what the Church is supposed to be.

          Everyone! Arms akimbo!

          by tobendaro on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 03:01:44 PM PST

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