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  •  But that's an unreasonable fear. (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, FogCityJohn, alain2112

    Who is going to confiscate guns? I don't get the paranoia.

    It seems that the NRA has been successful in driving fear into gun owners that the government is coming to get their guns.

    Unwarranted.

    •  Maybe they read it on dailykos (3+ / 0-)
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      high uintas, PavePusher, Cedwyn

      Where there is a great body of agreement that we live in a police state/dictatorship/tyranny. just like the RW says every day. just search police state here
      And there's also a body of agreement among people here that guns should be confiscated. Not everybody for sure, but some of themore vociferous ones
      (search gun control)

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 06:02:49 PM PST

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    •  If they ban guns and don't take them away in some (1+ / 0-)
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      way....you still have 310 firearms on the streets.  Enough for every man, woman and child in this country.....So Sure, people are going to freak when you talk "bans" and "registration".

      •  And how would that ever pass? (1+ / 0-)
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        a2nite

        Banning guns?

        •  It won't pass. I'm glad. (1+ / 0-)
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          •  So why should people "freak" when someone says (2+ / 0-)
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            FogCityJohn, a2nite

            ... "ban?"

            •  Because some are not as politically in tune as we (2+ / 0-)
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              PavePusher, KVoimakas

              are....they hear ban and have no idea the political wall that is there.

              Another view... I think a lot of people don't understand the value other people place on the 2A and how they consider it a right, an important right.  I certainly do.  

            •  Because the ones that get upset about it are the (0+ / 0-)

              ones who might actually comply with it.  Those who won't wouldn't care.  If we are going to have a prayer of addressing the gun violence problem, we're going to have to get past the stereotypical views.  The NRA and Ted Nugent don't represent the majority of gun owners, but they sure as hell are visible.

              •  I don't understand. (1+ / 0-)
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                a2nite

                The "ones who might actually comply with it?"

                I just got a comment from ban nock that he is concerned about confiscation.

                I don't understand how any rational, thinking gun owner (which I assume most people who post here who belong to RKBA here are) can live in fear of confiscation.

                How or when is that going to happen?

                Not to mention the fact that here two opposing notions coming from many of the RKBA folks here:

                1. There will be no laws that permit confiscation.

                2. Fear of confiscation.

                I don't get how these two opposing notions can both be true.

                Do you think confiscation could become a political reality anytime in the foreseeable future? In your lifetime?

              •  I asked you this in your diary yesterday... (0+ / 0-)

                ... and received no response.

                How can you simultaneously declare that gun control will "never happen" at the same time you fear government confiscation?
                Here is the full thread.
                •  I think part of your confusion stems from (2+ / 0-)
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                  what appears to be equating fear with concern.  While similar, they are not the same.  Fear is a pure emotion, stemming from the emotional centers of the brain.  Fear also impedes cortical thinking.  Concern is more logical and a response to things that reason says could happen.  In our daily lives we do many things because (bad or undesirable) things could happen, like wearing seat belts, but it doesn't mean we fear being in a car accident.

                  I am concerned about confiscation.  I do not fear it.  I do not believe that confiscation will occur, but I also realize that it could occur.  Hence, there is the need to be ever vigilant in preventing it.

                  •  Exactly....I too do not think it will happen, nor (1+ / 0-)
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                    do I think it could pass.  However, that is my views today.  Could that change?  Absolutely.  

                    A few months ago, I would have said the same about a AWB or universal background checks.  A few months ago, I wouldn't have thought either one of them could have become even a discussion during this Congress.  Things change, and my concerns change....as the discussions and debates raise new topics.

                    Make no mistake that there are plenty of people who really do want to ban guns.  We all know this.  There are plenty of people in this country who want to repeal the 2A.  We all know this too.   Confiscation would be a victory in the eyes of people who wish every gun to be removed in this country.

                    So at anytime the debate can change courses and events could move in that direction, political climates can change....so no one can say with any certainly that confiscation would never happen.  It could become a reality in a few years, a decade from now or even in the near future.  No one knows for sure but I definately remain ever vigilant in that regard....should the mood of debate change courses.  If that is called fear then label me fearful.  I consider it concerning.....at this point anyway, even though right now, today, I think it has an almost zero chance of happening.  

                  •  Okay, thanks. (0+ / 0-)

                    Look, if the subject didn't come up after Newtown, it is unlikely to come up anytime soon.

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