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  •  you can stop suspecting and put it in the (3+ / 0-)
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    gooderservice, gustynpip, Shahryar

    obama is willing to negotiate with senior's and the disabled's livelihood!!!

    Of course, I suspect the White House is still favorable to the chained CPI idea for Social Security.
    Medicare Eligibility Age Off The Table In Sequestration Talks, White House Says:

    emph added:

    But while Democrats may rejoice over this new development, they will likely be disheartened by another. Carney said on Monday that the president would be open to reducing Social Security's benefit structure as part of a "big deal" to avert sequestration. That proposal, known as chained CPI, would alter the annual adjustment in how benefits are paid to Social Security recipients by using a less generous baseline of inflation.

    "He has put forward a technical change, as part of a big deal," said Carney. "A technical change of CPI is possible as part of a big deal."

    •  Oh, NO you DON'T (1+ / 0-)
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      liberaldemdave

      You think I am going to put up with paying for you to build drones to kill foreign civilians when you are willing to let senior citizens go hungry at home?  

      Listen up, if you want to keep Americans safer, you might start by making sure they have food and shelter here at home.

      I will vote on this issue.

    •  ARGGHHHHH!!!! (4+ / 0-)

      And "technical change".   BIG FAT F**KING LIE.  

      What you are supposed to say Carney is that Obama is willing to reduce your Social Security payment every month for the rest of your life.

      If you are going to do that Mr. President, stop having your press Secretary LIE to every senior in the United States.  

      This is not a technical change it is a reduction in Social Security benefits.

      This is just another reason why I will vote on this issue.  I am so sick of Democrats lying about Medicare and Social Security cuts.  

      You gave tax cuts to people making $400K.  But someone getting 3.5% of $400K will get their Social Security COLA cut.  

      You are balancing the budget on the backs of the vulnerable elderly and you are lying about doing it.
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    •  How much does SS contribute to the deficit? (0+ / 0-)
      MR. CARNEY:  Jon Karl from ABC.

           Q    Jay, yes, can you just clarify for me very clearly -- is the President open to raising the eligibility age for Medicare?

           MR. CARNEY:  No.

           Q    Absolutely not?

           MR. CARNEY:  The President has made clear that we don’t believe that that’s the right policy to take.  The President has made clear in the proposals he put forward to John Boehner, that John Boehner walked away from late last year, that he’s willing to make tough choices with regards to entitlement reform.

           Q    But not that choice?

           MR. CARNEY:  That’s correct.

           Q    What about reducing the annual cost of living increases for Social Security recipients?

           MR. CARNEY:  Again, as part of a big deal, part of a comprehensive package that reduces our deficit and achieves that $4-trillion goal that was set out by so many people in and outside of government a number of years ago, he would consider that the hard choice that includes the so-called chain CPI, in fact, he put that on the table in his proposal, but not in a cherry-picked or piecemeal way.  That’s got to be part of a comprehensive package that asks that the burden be shared; that we don’t, as some in Congress want, ask seniors to bear the burden of further deficit reduction alone, or middle-class families who are struggling to send their kids to college, or parents of children who are disabled who rely on programs to help them get through.

      That’s just not fair and it doesn’t make economic sense -- because the choice would be, let’s do that, but hold harmless the wealthy; let’s do that, put the burden on seniors alone, but not close loopholes in our tax code that are available to wealthy individuals or corporations, but not to average folks or small businesses.  And that doesn’t make any sense.

      How do you explain to a senior that we’re doing this, asking you to sacrifice, but we’re not saying that corporate jet owners should lose their special tax incentive; we’re not saying to oil and gas companies who are making record profits that they should forego these huge subsidies that taxpayers provide?  That’s not fair and it’s not good economics.

           Q    But I just want to be clear what you said at the beginning of that answer, which is the President --

           MR. CARNEY:  It is not our --

           Q    -- as part of an overall balanced approach, he does not rule out effectively reducing benefits for Social Security recipients?

           MR. CARNEY:  He has put forward a technical change as part of a big deal -- and it’s on the table -- that he put forward to the Speaker of the House.  The Speaker of the House, by the way, walked away from that deal even though it met the Republicans halfway on revenues and halfway on spending cuts and included some tough decisions by the President on entitlements.  The Speaker walked away from that deal.

           But as part of that deal, the technical change in the so-called CPI is possible in his own offer as part of a big deal.

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