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  •  Perhaps now you see why MLK used non-violence. (3+ / 0-)
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    The INDISCRIMINATE violence gives the LAPD all the justification it needs to take Dorner out, wash their hands and be done with it.

    DISCRIMINATE violence can be dismissed as a dispute between a fixed set of people, wash your hands and be done with it.

    VIOLENCE makes the other side look sympathetic.

    VIOLENCE distracts from the point Dorner is trying to make.

    Granted, it is hard for a guy who is angry at losing a job he was born to do--and by all indications did amazingly well--to switch gears and figure out how to get attention for his cause in a non-violent way.

    He may be trying to speak truth to power, but he will fail.    It's a poor tactic.   Yes, he is "a canary in a coal mine" of sorts.  If you think about it, so was Mohammed Atta.  We really paid attention to him and that bin Laden guy, didn't we?  Those who live by the sword will die by the sword and those of us who survive will miss the point of the sword--literally and figuratively.

    If you care about what he is trying to say, you need to find another way of bringing the truth out.  It's one reason why some say the pen is mightier than the sword.  Your best weapon in a fight against bad guys with weapons is often managing to sway public opinion.

    I have no easy answers, but I can assure you, that Dorner's gun presents no easy answers either.

    •  Don't forget that MLK was also a master (6+ / 0-)

      provocateur. Many miss out on that fact. I like Arrendt's (sp?) exchanges and reflections on that matter too...very provocative and necessary.

      •  And many don't (1+ / 0-)
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        Don't forget that MLK was also a master provocateur. Many miss out on that fact.
        As a native son of the South, Dr. Martin Luther King was intimately acquainted with police brutality and institutional corruption.

        Yet he never jumped over a seat and choked a white colleague because they uttered a racial slur as Christophe Dorner did. Nor did he ambush and murder one cop, while leaving the other in critical condition.

        Nor did he kill the daughter of anyone he had grievances with make vows like this until he got what he wanted.

        I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children's schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours.

        There is absolutely no credible comparison between Christopher Dorner's actions as a "provacateur," to raise awareness about LAPD corruption and Dr. Martin Luther King's, non-violent campaign to raise awareness about economic and racial injustice.

        "I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights." (From "You Said a Mouthful" by Bishop Desmond Tutu - South African bishop & activist, b.1931)

        by FiredUpInCA on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 07:52:39 PM PST

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        •  again great talking points on your point--i never (2+ / 0-)
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          said he was Dorner--where and how do you jump to such ill conceived conclusions? Bizarre. Really. I always try to point out the complexity of Dr. King, he is so misunderstood. Stolen by conservatives who dishonestly channel 3 seconds of a speech to rail against affirmative action, a policy king supported. Likewise, I intervene against pie in the sky childish notions of Brother Dr. King by many on the Left.

          Brother King was a master tactician and strategist. His policies were also ill-equipped for dealing with white supremacy in the North. He died one of the most unpopular people in America, too far ahead of white folks for sure, and many, many black folks too.

        •  A provacateur (0+ / 0-)

          is someone who keeps at it until the cows come home to roost.

    •  And What happened to (0+ / 0-)

      Martin Luther King?

      Ironic, isn't it?

    •  Standing shoulder to shoulder (0+ / 0-)

      with MLK were the Deacons for Defense and Justice

      Like everything else in this life, it was not nearly as cut and dried as some would like one to believe...

      Fear doesn't just breed incomprehension. It also breeds a spiteful, resentful hate of anyone and everyone who is in any way different from you.

      by awesumtenor on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 11:06:22 AM PST

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