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  •  It will be a political liability (21+ / 0-)

    for decades.  The Dems will try to blame it on the Republicans, somehow, or continue this lesser evil strategy.

    But Republicans are already making their campaign commercials.  "Democrats cut your Social Security!!"  And it will work, just like claiming that Dems cut Medicare worked in 2010, but that one was a lie, so it was not a long term political liability. This one, that the Dems cut Social Security, this will be the truth.

    I think the long term strategy for the neoliberals is to try to convince the youth that they made these cuts to save Social Security for them, so that all the old "greedy geezers" wouldn't use it all up so that there would be none left for them.  The people who will be pissed off the most by this will be dead before too long, and people who are passionate about the New Deal, largely the same people, gone in a couple/few decades.  Young voters will be around longer.  Most of them aren't paying much attention to issues about their retirement. How much did you care about your retirement when you were in your late teens, 20s, etc.?


    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 02:19:36 PM PST

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    •  One problem with this (14+ / 0-)
      I think the long term strategy for the neoliberals is to try to convince the youth that they made these cuts to save Social Security for them, so that all the old "greedy geezers" wouldn't use it
      The huge problem with this is more than ever young people are supporting their parents, or watching their parents move towards the age of 69 without enough savings or Social Security.  As the Boomers age, every other age co-hort is going to be impacted by it in a way we have not seen in modern American society.
      •  That's right (4+ / 0-)

        One problem with the neoliberal model is that it just doesn't work for anything except transient transferral of money from the working class to the very rich.  It fairly quickly begins to collapse as it has been doing.  People get pissed because they know things are bad and this means that the kleptocratic oligarchy has to expend more and more effort on obfuscation.

        I'm truly sorry Man's dominion Has broken Nature's social union--Robert Burns

        by Eric Blair on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 03:10:51 PM PST

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      •  Exactly, and we must impress that upon young (1+ / 0-)
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        people.

        Some will see something that they've only heard about--extended family households!

        Let's see how they like working (in some instances, standing on their feet, all day), and then coming home to feed and care for Mom and Dad once Medicare is gutted.

        They need to be constantly reminded of this outcome, if cuts continue unabated!

        Mollie

        "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible." --Frank L. Gaines

        "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

        by musiccitymollie on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 04:23:32 PM PST

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        •  Why do we always assume (0+ / 0-)

          people on our side don't want to take care of our parents when they are old, like it is a curse. My parents took care of me when I was young and I plan to do the same for them. Laying it out that SS keeps you from having to do that because 'you worked so hard today' is selfish in my opinion and plays right into the hands of the right's accusations that liberals care about others until they have to be among them. SS has nothing to do with whether they 'need it so you aren't bothered' and is a losing idea...SS was paid for by the working men and women and it is owed them, period.

    •  LOTE is wearing a bit thin, don't you think? :-) (5+ / 0-)

      But Joanneleon, we need to make sure that the young folks don't fall for this rhetoric!

      The CPI Index (as you know) is a cuts that compounds.  It is not minor!

      It is up to us to impress upon young people how damaging this, and other cuts planned, but yet to come down the pike, are!

      We have to get them on board to fight future cuts, by explaining to them how drastic and harmful they are.  Especially progressive price indexing (means testing) and raising the FRA and ERA.

      Actually, the Chained CPI is the MOST REGRESSIVE OF ALL.  And I intend to get that point across to everyone, repeatedly.

      It is unconscionable, to say the least!

      Mollie

      "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible." --Frank L. Gaines

      "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

      by musiccitymollie on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 04:20:42 PM PST

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