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  •  No...no...and no...here's why: (0+ / 0-)

    1)  President Obama's approval ratings are at record highs and now he's becoming very popular that he could become a major asset in a number of racers, both in the U.S. Senate and in the House.  I really don't understand why enough Kossacks are talking about Obama not being an asset.  He easily won re-election.  We're no longer talking about 2010.

    President Obama is not on the ballot, just as he wasn't in 2010. Those who are mobilized buy his presence in a race but are uninspired by various Dem candidates likely will not turn out in the numbers you think they will.

    2)  Congress's approval ratings, at record low levels, are being blamed solely at Republicans.  If anything, voter turnout among the GOP will be low, unless the GOP does an amazing job at getting people off their asses.

    Uh, congress ALWAYS has low JARs...and it's not just the Republicans they have problems with.

    3)  Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton can also campaign.  Bill Clinton recently gave a passionate speech to House Democrats.  If there's anyone who can rally up the troops and early on, it's President Clinton.  I mean, did his speech at the 2012 Democratic National Convention not fire up voters?

    By then, Hillary will be full-blown into her presidential run of 2016. And with all due respect, they aren't likely to hitch their wagon to ANYONE'S prospects when they have so much on the line.

    •  You're missing the point (0+ / 0-)

      1)  Barack Obama, when he was U.S. Senator in 2006, actually helped the outreach effort for Democrats running for the House and Senate.  He's a natural campaigner and in fact, Obama is campaigning right now in the U.S. on issues that matter to the country.

           And with all due respect, people WILL turn out in numbers for Democratic candidates for the House in Senate based on President Obama's campaigning.  We can make sure they should.  They did it in 2006, when Congress was getting sharply criticized and they can do it again in 2014, where Congress is getting it's worst approval rating ever.

      2)  The GOP is the gift that keeps on giving and they don't stop.  They are basically blowing up and continuing to self-destruct.  Maybe they aren't losing their base in red states but even Georgia right now is a closely watched state, which is becoming more moderate than traditionally conservative in the past.

      3)  Do you really think Hilary Clinton will run in 2016?  Unless she announces it, right now all it is, is hype to me.

      •  No...I got your point 100%... (0+ / 0-)

        Don't be duped into thinking that because someone disagrees with you, they "miss your point".

        1) Barack Obama didn't do SQUAT for Democrats in 2010...or 2011, for that matter...and Republicans were arguably in worse shape after the 2008 election than they are now (now they have control of the House)

        2) I can point you to numerous times the GOP was in "self-destruct" mode throughout history (1968, 1976, 1992, 2008) yet found a way to kick our asses in elections that followed. It is arrogant presumption to think that 2012 guarantees success in 2014 or any other election.

        Oh, and the day we  take Georgia will be the day I bite my own ass.

        3) Yes, I really, REALLY think Hillary Clinton will run in 2016...and win. The Clinton machine has only really lost one big election...and the guy they lost to will not be able to run again.

        •  2010 is NO more (0+ / 0-)

          And throughout the history you're referring you, you're taking things way out of context.  During the years of 1968,l 1976, 1992, 2008, times were different.  Since then, we've had a Democratic president that's black, the most innovative and inclusive president in history (although Obama is not perfect).

          And also, there's more infighting in the GOP now than there ever was before, more to the point of REAL self-destruction.

          Those years in the 1960's and 1970's, well, here's a piece of history:  The GOP in the 1960's and 1970's were more moderate and moderate conservative.  In the 1980's, they became more conservative although moderates were still included.  In the 1990's, the GOP became more right wing but still cooperated with Clinton.  In the Bush years, the GOP became almost exclusively conservative with hardly any moderates welcome and almost entirely conservative and right wing.

          In the 2008 and years beyond, the GOP has become more right-wing and Tea Party based, not allowing any moderates to enter and conservatives must undergo the litmus test.

          I know this because I deal with conservatives all the time in my own family.  My mom and brother, both from conservative families in Utah won't mention this but they deal with crap now that they didn't used to deal with, politically.  My mom can't stand Rush Limbaugh and she can't stand the right wingers.  Yet she still wants to be in the GOP because she's conservative and her views fit that mold.  I don't blame her.  It's her point of view and I respect that.

          But please, I'm a Berkeley native and I've been through many anti-war protests and have lived here long before Daily Kos was even founded.  This is only February 2013 and we're talking about the 2014 midterm elections as if there's no opportunity.  BULL CRAP.  We're just afraid of conservatives.

          Well, I ain't afraid of no conservative.

          •  No, you have your OPINION... (0+ / 0-)

            ...I have mine...and mine is based on historical FACT.

            Nothing out of context in the least here. I have the facts AND history on my side with my argument. You have speculation...unfounded speculation. Time will prove me right on this...bank it.

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