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  •  but police helicopters are? (1+ / 0-)
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    I am curious why people get all bent out of shape over observation drones. I just utterly don't understand it. It's like people are irrationally scared of drones while ignoring that they provide the same capabilities as what the police currently have.

    •  Helicopters are manned and you can (2+ / 0-)

      hear them loud and clear. They're not spying on you surreptitiously, and they don't have nearly the invasive surveillance capacity as drones.

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      by Oaktown Girl on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 10:31:47 PM PST

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    •  "Irrational"? You don't think the use of unmanned (6+ / 0-)

      drones that can kill people while operated from thousands of miles away should give some people pause?  In some ways the use of drones is no different than previous techniques but the key component, unmanned, takes it to a different level particularly when it comes to judgement.  There's alot of controversy concerning the use of drones and it's not irrational.  To me there's also the question of need, do we need drones in every law enforcment organization of this country, just like to police departments need tanks.  The law enforcement function in this country is now clearly part and parcel of the MIC.  The MIC even started its own Congressional Caucus to "rapidly and urgently deploy drones to law enforcment organizations" in this country.  The "defense and national security" budget of the US now surpasses 65% of the discretionary budget.  The same is happening at the city levels, law enforcement is costing an increasingly larger piece of the budget pie.  Drones are a dangerous step because there are always more steps.  And it's an easy step to go from unarmed to armed.  

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      by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 10:33:09 PM PST

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      •  And yet not even law enforcement (1+ / 0-)
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        is asking for missiles and I highly doubt the public would stand for that

      •  The poster was referring to survelliance (0+ / 0-)

        drones, not military drones, to be fair.

        I don't think anyone's OK with armed drones shooting off missiles in the United States in regular communities. I also don't think - as far as the leaked documents we've seen so far - anyone has legally justified its use in that way, not even the White House.

        I'm not a fan of surveillance drones for law enforcement mostly because I see it as a way to cut manned jobs in the future, but I don't really care if all public places are surveyed. You have to assume nothing in public is private these days anyway with cell phone cameras - if any Joe Blow can film me legally (and he can in many cases) and post it on YouTube, I'm fine with the police filming for public safety in the same places. Inside homes, etc, is a different story and hopefully the SC will protect those rights.

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