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  •  what i did expect was an occupation plan... (3+ / 0-)
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    chloris creator, elwior, bobatkinson

    I remember the UN inspectors who said they found nothing. I remember the reports that said Sadam had already gotten rid of all of his WMDs. I felt it was all pretense and got into several arguments with good friends who were still scared of another attack. And I live in NYC.

    But what I did expect was a coherent occupation plan. What I did expect was an occupation of Iraq that I would certainly disagree with, but was going to signal a new American empire. Partly I think because that is what the neocons said. I didn't agree with any of this...but I expected them to be...organized and based in reality, even if their interpretation of that reality differed from mine.

    I never expected them to be so god damn fucking stooooopid

    I cant tell if its a West End musical or Marxism in action.

    by Evolution on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 10:39:24 AM PST

    •  They weren't stupid (5+ / 0-)

      they made a Trillion bucks off the war.

    •  Army Chief Shinseki told them the truth (1+ / 0-)
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      chicagoblueohio

      A sad irony of the debacle is that Army Chief of Staff Gen. Erik Shinseki warned Rumsfeld that he would need hundreds of thousands of soldiers to maintain stability in the country after the invasion. He was removed from office for his honesty. When Obama was elected he was appointed as head of the VA where he is now in charge of modernizing a much neglected organization and putting back together the tens of thousands of mental and physically wounded Iraq veterans as well as the tens of thousands of Viet Nam vets like myself whose PTSD came rushing back in nightmarish fashion. Like they say in AA, you can quit drinking but the thirst just grows and when you start again the compulsion will be worse so the long suppressed horrors of Viet Nam came out of silent dormancy and roared into our conscious days. As a wise poster said on here a couple of weeks ago when we discussed when the Viet Nam war ended, "It never ended".

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