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  •  Significant amounts from tar sands? (1+ / 0-)
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    The aim is 8 million barrels of crude  per day

    To thine ownself be true

    by Agathena on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:11:17 PM PST

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    •  2012 AB tar sands produced 1.8 mil barrels (1+ / 0-)
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      Of bitumen

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:18:01 PM PST

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    •  Keystone will, if completed, (0+ / 0-)

      carry maybe one million barrels a day (US consumption is about 14-15 million barrels/day).  If the pipeline is not built that million barrels a day will continue to be, as it is now, imported by tanker (from somewhere else) and burned just the same.

      It's extraction is "dirty" to be sure, and the extraction accounts for considerable CO2 emission in its own right (although it's mostly fueled by natural gas), but it's still just a blip in world CO2 emissions . . . not enough to make more than the slightest difference in "global warming" . . . certainly not in the remaining few years when it might matter.

      Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

      by Deward Hastings on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:28:23 PM PST

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    •  That, by the way, is the same amount... (5+ / 0-)

      ...of "oil" that Exxon predicted in 1980 would be being pulled daily out of the oil shale (not to be confused with shale oil) from the Green River formation in the Piceance Basin in Colorado by 2000. Even dirtier than tar sands and also heavily consumptive of water. As it turned out, not a drop of commercially economic oil shale was being produced by 2000, and still isn't. But there are plenty of people who would like to exploit this resource.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:38:29 PM PST

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