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  •  The biggest problem I have with these big events (5+ / 0-)

    and I've been to more than I can count over the years, is that they are held on weekends. In CT when we try to demonstrate at the State House, there's no one in the building and it's set in a park so there's no one within shouting distance. Hartford hollows out on weekends, it's an extreme donut.
    I understand that weekday events are hard for people to go to, jobs, classes, et cetera, but the time to hit a place like that is morning rush hour.
    That is, unless you can get the Media to cover the event.
    During BushCheney, I was at half a dozen marches in DC that had upwards of 3/4 million people and ZERO media trucks. Driving away from a march that had at least 1/2 a million, I heard NPR claim that "several thousand had gathered.."
    (By contrast, this morning, they claimed this march had 35000 people.)
    The idea of multiple events nationwide or worldwide is good, but again, it's media dependent and when the Media decides to ignore or worse lie, the effort is wasted.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 11:28:58 AM PST

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    •  You have two different issues here (3+ / 0-)
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      The weekend thing I sort of get, although I'd never have been to the big anti-war rally in D.C. in September of 2005 if it hadn't been a Saturday.

      The media is a whole different kettle of fish. Saturday is a slow news day. Unless there's something more important, like a warehouse fire, they are looking for someplace to send their trucks — or anything to fill up their nightly broadcast.

      And heck yes, the media ignored that march which was estimated to have about a half million people and be the largest march since the Vietnam era. My local paper ran a story which devoted as many column inches to the counter-rally the next day, hosted by I forget who — Glenn Beck or someone like that. Someone posted photos of that rally here at DailyKos, and there were so few people you could count them. "Crow" estimates were in the low hundreds.

      When the war in Iraq started in March 2003, there was a big rally on Public Square here in Cleveland where clergy stood in front of our Soldiers and Sailors Monument, commemorating war dead all afternoon, reading the name of those killed in prior wars. There were probably a few thousand in and out all day, with maybe a peak crowd of a thousand. I was there a few hours, walking around and talking photos. I never saw a counter-protester. The nearest thing I saw was a carload of young frat jock types who drove by and yelled "Bush! Bush!" out the window.

      The next day, our local paper had a headline that said "Demonstrators for, against war gather at Public Square," making it sound like it was two equal sides.

      Jon Husted is a dick.

      by anastasia p on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 12:00:08 PM PST

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    •  You have pointed to several issues that... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...are among the reasons I have long supported local actions networked locally, with occasional D.C. or N.Y.C. bigger actions, since the October 1969 National Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam. There were 100s of 1000s in D.C. then, but also more than 600 actions across the country in cities and college campuses, some sources say about 2 million participants all told.

      Getting local publicity requires building relationships with local media. That takes work and can still be disappointing. But it's crucial. Talk to reporters, make coverage easy for them. Provide them with talking points that actually say something. Do some of their work for them.

      Local protests don't have to be on a weekend. If the networked protests are held over, say, four days, Friday-Monday, it allows for flexibility.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 02:19:52 PM PST

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      •  The best work I did in San Antonio was media for (3+ / 0-)
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        Meteor Blades, CwV, WakeUpNeo We developed those relationships and got several small rallies covered. It is well worth the work and effort. The local paper is now covering issues with a better balance and has even endorsed the occasional Democrat since then. I think the work I did with MoveOn helped. They have a great media training. I was glad to see Anna Galland join us here at DKos. I hope she can convince more Kossacks to action.

    •  In San Antonio, we often held them mid-week (1+ / 0-)
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      but then people who had to work would complain they couldn't come. It's a tough sell either way.

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