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  •  Ummmm......Rand Paul opposes the civil rights (3+ / 0-)
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    of gay Americans.     He's a bigot just like his father.

    Apparently his version of civil liberties is "I've got mine, so screw you!"

    •  That cat's out of the bag (4+ / 0-)
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      By 2016 being anti-gay-marriage will be an unthinkable political position.

      Like I said, just make the Democratic nominee anti-drug war and anti-terrorism war and pro-civil liberties and this entire problem goes away. Fortunately, it has been an easy choice for the last few elections, if only because Romney was known to be worse than Obama in this regard, as awful as Obama has been.

      Don't make 2016 a difficult choice. I will vote for the better candidate in this regard. Always.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 04:54:20 PM PST

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      •  So you forgive him for being an antigay bigot ... (4+ / 0-)
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        ... because the rest of us are not?  Or something?  

        Both Pauls are going to stick to their bigoted ways because that is what libertarianism means to them.  Libertarianism simply means that you can conjure an immensely self-satisfying intellectual rationalization for your own out-dated, archaic beliefs.  Liberalism is libertarianism in practice and sometimes it is not ideologically pure.  

        If you are anti-drug war, anti-WarOnTerror and pro-civil liberties then you are a liberal.  Welcome.

        Please do not be alarmed. We are about to engage... the nozzle.

        by Terrapin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 05:07:37 PM PST

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        •  umm, are you saying (0+ / 0-)
          If you are anti-drug war, anti-WarOnTerror and pro-civil liberties then you are a liberal
          that most of the Democratic Party, including its titular leader, is not liberal? ;-))
          •  That is precisely what I am saying. (0+ / 0-)

            But I do not need him or the rest of the Party to approach Liberal purity in order for me to support him/them.

            My post was a response to a self-described 'libertarian' - a political approach for which I have little patience.

            Please do not be alarmed. We are about to engage... the nozzle.

            by Terrapin on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 02:51:51 PM PST

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      •  "..... will be an unthinkable political position." (3+ / 0-)
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        Kind of like how being opposed to mixed-race marriage is an unthinkable political position today, and quite rightly so.

        Teabaggers like Rand Paul still think they deserve special rights and privileges while certain other Americans should be 2nd-class citizens..........but they have yet to figure out why so few people are voting for them.     Someone who in the 21st century still can't understand that all Americans deserve the same rights isn't worth your vote.

        Seriously, you wouldn't think that equal protection of the law is all that complicated to figure out or that difficult to support.

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          Seriously, you wouldn't think that equal protection of the law is all that complicated to figure out or that difficult to support.
          Tell that to drone strike targets in Yemen that never got a trial.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 06:48:56 PM PST

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    •  That is what makes him a hypocrit. (2+ / 0-)
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      He is not a Libertarian.

    •  "I've got mine, so screw you" (1+ / 0-)
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      is libertarian "philosophy" in a nutshell.

      This much said, Rand is much less of a pretend-libertarian than his daddy.  Both are ultimately reliable Rethugs, and Rand plays much less at libertarianism, which is kind of refreshing actually.

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