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  •  I don't blame the media (3+ / 0-)
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    fumie, elwior, auditor

    The news media did its job.  It reported the facts.  The problem is there were no facts.  That's what tipped me off and probably others here as well.   What you did not find leading up to the war were any reporting of facts that proved WMD were present in Iraq or any facts justifying an urgent need to attack a country that was not going to attack us.  

    That was really all you needed to know.  There were no facts.   I don't blame the public either.  The public is busy.  It isn't focused on the absence of facts.   It's not looking for facts.  Easy for the public to be mislead.  

    I do blame Congress and I particularly blame politicians like Hillary Clinton who were smart enough to understand precisely what it meant when there were no facts.   Surely anyone with a law degree understands you need facts to prove a case and they probably learn that if you don't have facts to prove the case you use smoke and mirrors to distract the jury from the absence of facts.  There were no facts.

    •  the news media did not do its job (15+ / 0-)

      they did not show the demonstrations

      they did not ask questions

      they deliberately misled.  I was in Europe and would watch CNN International, and get something close to what was being reported in the US - and then watch the German NTV, CNN's sister station.  But completely different slant.

      Again, watching Buying the War, referenced above.

      by chloris creator on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 07:02:04 AM PST

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      •  They did their job well enough for me (3+ / 0-)
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        hlsmlane, fumie, elwior

        I figured it out here in Minnesota.  They reported enough for me to figure out what they were not reporting -- any legitimate cause for war.  They reported it well enough for my two senators and congressman to vote against the war.  Good enough for us folks out here in the sticks.

        You blame them for not interpreting the facts or absence of facts for the people.  Well, I don't know if the people would have paid any more attention to interpretation.  

        The people who were in a position to do something about this knew enough, more than enough, to know that war was totally unjustified and they chose the expedient course in going along.  Hillary is at the top of the list.  We'll all be telling each other that she has the most intelligence and most experience and best connections.  Yup.  As she did when she voted for the war.

    •  One name: Judith Miller ... look it up n/t (6+ / 0-)
    •  C'mon.....even John Kerry went with this. (1+ / 0-)
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      And I think Hillary said that the responsibility to go or not go to war was with the President and that she hoped he would take that responsibility seriously.

      The problem was that Bush capitalized on 9/11 in ways that a Democrat never could have and never would have. You have to hand it to him.

      If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

      by Bensdad on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 11:17:20 AM PST

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