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  •  Well, hi neighbor! (9+ / 0-)

    We're basically 10 minutes down hillside ave, toward Jamaica Estates area.

    I thank you for posting that info.  I cannot post links or fancy characters or diaries from this browser.

    Creedmore actually fascinates me.  When I pass it on the Grand Central, I cannot stop looking at it.

    (I moved to nyc from philly, almost 20 years ago.  I settled in Queens to be near my daughter, and I never left.  It's so diverse and so "unhip", compared to brooklyn...but that's fine with me!)

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    by Floyd Blue on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 10:17:57 AM PST

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    •  Creedmore is an enormous facility (4+ / 0-)

      Again, when I was a kid, the stigma surrounding mental illness meant that being associated with it in any way was supremely undesirable and the name itself was used as the basis for any number of childish insults. At one point a great-aunt of mine spent time there; she would stand at the fence and call out to me until my mom told her to stop.

      The Glen Oaks-Bellerose area of Queens is very different now from what it was when I was growing up. Far from being diverse it was in actually lily-white; perhaps 50% Jewish, 40% Catholic and 10% everything else but otherwise entirely European. There was a very small Asian minority and anyone with a Spanish surname probably had ancestors from Spain rather than from Latin America. Glen Oaks Village was integrated racially by court order in the mid-1960's.

      Once I left Glen Oaks I moved first to Woodside and then to Jackson Heights, both areas decidedly more diverse even back then. And then off to DC in 1980. While I never aspired to hipsterhood, I also became very tired of being labeled as part of the "bridge-and-tunnel" crowd with the result that once I left NYC I ALWAYS settled myself as close to downtown (in DC and again in SF) as possible.

      •  wow, Glen Oaks and Bellerose have REALLY changed! (3+ / 0-)
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        And when I first moved to nyc, Fresh Meadows was still in the throes of Helmsley, and so white...it is now very different!

        In Glen Oaks and Bellerose, there are so many Latino names now, and the Indian/Bengali influence is everywhere!

        I was also in DC...for 3 years...in the mid-80s.  Woodley Park/Dupont circle area.

        (My big peeve is being called a 'straphanger").  

        I only visited SF once, but it is one of my favorite places to visit!

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        by Floyd Blue on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 11:28:30 AM PST

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        •  Most of my time in DC I was right across (2+ / 0-)
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          the Ellington Bridge from you in Adams-Morgan.

          There is a small shopping district along Union Turnpike in the from 260th Street down to 255th. At the corner of 255th & Union Turnpike is a Rite-Aid; when I as a kid it as a Century Theater. Checking Google Maps, well, it looks as though the King Cullen has been expanded enormously and is now a Waldbaums while the Mays Department Store that later became an Indian bazaar has been demolished along with the most of the middle portion that housed various other storefronts including a Woolworth's. In fact it appears that the library on the south side of Union Turnpike where I spent so much time reading as a kid (especially during the summer when it was one of the few places with a/c) has also been demolished and relocated to a storefront adjacent to the Rite-Aid. And we think the stuff we were familiar with as kids is gonna last forever...

          •  We shop there alot! (2+ / 0-)
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            It is completely different now.

            Yes, you cannot even tell that's a library.  It is exactly as you described:  a storefront next to the Rite Aid.  The main chunk of the middle of that center is now a Burlington Coat Factory. There's a mcdonalds a DD and a Duane Reade (yes, in the same center!)....the rest are mom and pop places.....

            I used to love Adams Morgan!!  That street festival is incredible....and the restaurants.  I remember walking over that bridge when I first moved to DC.....we were a little drunk, and the first sight of the stiltwalker freaked me out!

            (anytime you wanna reminisce, please feel free...i will answer!)

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            by Floyd Blue on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:00:40 PM PST

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            •  I'm trying to remember when I was last there (2+ / 0-)
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              Probably 2005 (my last trip back to NYC). Trapper and I went to visit my aunt and uncle; took the Q-46 (which used to be the Q-44A) bus from the F train and rode all the way out. I recall seeing the Burger King. When I was a kid there was a local burger place that delivered orders by means of a Lionel train set. I LOVED going there! And the Garden Bakery which was absolutely awesome. I'm not sure bakeries like that even exist anymore; or if they do they're considered "gourmet" and are really pricey.

              The Burlington Coat Factory is probably what had been the Mays (fairly big regional chain once upon a time; they may even have had locations as far south as Philly).

              •  Now we are right at the end of the F train! (2+ / 0-)
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                Where you caught the bus.

                It's amazign how those bakeries have disappeared.  Yes, if it is actually baked there, and not a chain, it is somehow "gourmet".

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                by Floyd Blue on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:56:16 PM PST

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