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  •  I was referring more to his denomination (1+ / 0-)
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    than his exact profession as minister.  His penchant for violence was most un-Wesleyan

    •  But in the 19th century, (3+ / 0-)
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      not all violence was created equal, to paraphrase.  I wouldn't elevate any one denomination above the fray of their own contemporary "logical short cuts" that corresponded with the zeitgeist.

      It is only to a 21 Century set of eyes that the circumstances of a Wesleyan, abolitionist might also be capable of vast slaughter of native peoples in order to further his own career seems ironic, or hypocritical, or even inconsistent.

      The entire path of modernity is about it a commonplace understanding that humanity is a quality and human rights the purview of all human beings, not simply the ones each tribe sees as their own.  

      It's about expanding the working definition of "We the People" in people's heads to include all people, and the consequences to the social practices, forms of social organization (including religion) and the social order of that expansion.

      With that framework, I rarely if ever find such contradictions ironic.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 01:42:49 PM PST

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