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  •  I don't always watch it (23+ / 0-)

    ... and I definitely don't remember much. I'm usually hard put to even recall who won the major awards just last year. And I'm pretty much a film buff, too.

    That said, someone (Rachel?) reminded us of how Michael Moore blasted the lies & deception leading to the Iraq War. There was also an occasion with either Susan Sarandon or Tim Robbins (forget which) where they did not hold forth on the topic du jour, but everyone commented on it anyhow.

    I suppose I should refresh myself on who's nominated. I have seen some of the movies. I'm rooting for Jennifer Lawrence over Jessica Chastain - Zero Dark Thirty movie is too deeply flawed on its tacit claim that torture works for me to root for anything in it. That problem is too toxic to overlook.

    I have no clue what the oddsmakers are saying, even though I've come across a few TV segments about it.

    Mark Twain: It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

    by Land of Enchantment on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 07:43:20 AM PST

    •  michael moore on zero dark thirty: (2+ / 0-)
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      In Defense of Zero Dark Thirty

      There comes a point about two-thirds of the way through Zero Dark Thirty where it is clear something, or someone, on high has changed. The mood at the CIA has shifted, become subdued. It appears that the torture-approving guy who's been president for the past eight years seems to be, well, gone. And, just as a fish rots from the head down, the stench also seems to be gone. Word then comes down that -- get this! -- we can't torture any more! The CIA agents seem a bit disgruntled and dumbfounded. I mean, torture has worked soooo well these past eight years! Why can't we torture any more???

      The answer is provided on a TV screen in the background where you see a black man (who apparently is the new president) and he's saying, in plain English, that America's torturing days are over, done, finished. There's an "aw, shit" look on their faces and then some new boss comes into the meeting room, slams his fist on the table and says, essentially, you've had eight years to find bin Laden -- and all you've got to show for it are a bunch of photos of naked Arab men peeing on themselves and wearing dog collars and black hoods. Well, he shouts, those days are over! There's no secret group up on the top floor looking for bin Laden, you're it, and goddammit do your job and find him.
      ...

      And then, as the movie shows, the CIA abruptly shifts from torture porn to -- are you sitting down? -- detective work. Like cops do to find killers.

      ...

      I think you know what happens next. In the final third of Zero Dark Thirty, the agents switch from torture to detective work -- and guess what happens? We find bin Laden! Eight years of torture -- no bin Laden. Two years of detective work -- boom! Bin Laden!

      "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

      by thankgodforairamerica on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 12:46:25 PM PST

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    •  Michael Moore 2003 Oscar! (3+ / 0-)

      Documentarians like facts:
      http://youtu.be/...
      Yep, the fictitious President led us into fictitious war and found Moore, the Pope, and the Dixie Chicks in opposition.  This didn't seem to affect Moore or the Pope too adversely, although Moore has not received any more Oscar talk; but it seems to have caused a huge setback in the career of the Dixie Chicks.

      Sashen Littlefeather and Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" are my two favorite Oscar moments.

      "Truth and love will overcome lies and hatred.” Vaclav Havel

      by dharmasyd on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 01:26:09 PM PST

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