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  •  Your "facts" (0+ / 0-)

    You claim to somehow omnisciently know which suicide attempts are "real" and which are "parasuicide", when even trained professionals don't know (and usually the patients themselves don't know). That is not "fact", it is your self-serving supposition.

    You posted raw numbers but not rates, which do in fact show a drop in Australia's OVERALL successful suicide rate by nearly one-third in the decade following strict gun control.

    So, yes, I have a problem with your "facts".

    •  You're now arguing with claims not made. It took (0+ / 0-)

      five years for suicide rates to get back below the pre-restriction level.

      I haven't argued at all that it has not fallen.  It has.  And it's because of a massive national effort to reduce it.

      In the US, the rate of homes with guns has been falling for thirty years. It peaked in 1977 at 54% and in 2011 was at 32.2 .

      http://www.upi.com/...

      What has happened to the suicide rate?

      http://www.suicide.org/...

      From 13.2 in 1980 to 10.8 in 2003.  This, even though we've had massive demographic shifts.  Whites, who commit suicide at twice the rate of some other ethnic groups, now make up much less of the population.

      Gun fetishists think a gun is answer to every problem.  Their mirror images think guns are the cause of every problem.

      income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

      by JesseCW on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 01:21:03 AM PST

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      •  Yes. (0+ / 0-)

        The data supports my position, and refutes yours. Just as you posted it. Are you just unable to understand it? I know most people lack education....

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