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  •  Too much? (8+ / 0-)
    We are already having too much emphasis on STEM.
     As long as the rightwing can continue to get away with convincing too many voters that climate change and evolution are "bunk science", as well as throwing around B.S. on how to run a sound economy and "entitlement" programs, there's not enough emphasis on STEM.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 10:44:09 AM PST

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    •  But there are too many STEM people as is... (5+ / 0-)

      ...and not enough STEM jobs.  It may be that's what he's talking about.  You can't cure pig ignorance with more STEM graduates - you just make a lot of more unemployed scientists.  Like me.

      •  Don't forget that right wing ignorance at its core (6+ / 0-)

        represents a massive failure to be educated in the ability to think critically, to not simply incorporate and regurgitate the self serving, historically and scientifically ignorant nonsense that is facilitating the transformation of this country into a neo-feudal plutocracy.

        And I would submit that critical thinking is not only a vitally important skill, but an art, one that precious few teachers know how to instill in their students. It requires not only a sense of awe and wonder that DarkSyde so eloquently invokes in this diary, but the hunger to question -- everything -- and not simply accept given "wisdom". It requires an appreciation for beauty, and art, and music, and literature, and history.

        And I say this as a physician, trained in science. STEM is critical. It's all important. But the ability to think critically and broadly underlies everything. And yes, good teachers are absolutely essential and horribly under appreciated. Kudos to the people involved in this new project, and many thanks for this diary.

        The only entitlement that needs reforming is the inbred belief of the 0.1% that they are entitled to 99.9% of the wealth and 100% of the power.

        by flitedocnm on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 11:52:23 AM PST

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        •  Sometimes it's a competition... (4+ / 0-)
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          ...between those trying to teach them reality (like their teachers or schools) and people trying to indoctrinate them (parents, church).  In other places, they get indoctrination from EVERY source - parts of the South are infamous for having Bible-steeped public schools, illegal or not.

          Otherwise, I agree with everything you've said.  Kudos for saying it.

      •  We have plenty of STEM jobs (1+ / 0-)
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        Unfortunately, they are going to intellectual sweatshops overseas or are filled in this country by lower cost scientists and technicians on HC1 visas.

        "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

        by Orinoco on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 01:18:54 PM PST

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    •  one can be a STEM graduate and have those beliefs (3+ / 0-)
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      palantir, Orinoco, Be Skeptical

      example #1 is Rep. Paul Broun, MD.

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 11:39:11 AM PST

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