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  •  Look, I don't mean to sound callous, but (1+ / 0-)
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    Horace Boothroyd III

    everyone dies eventually. When abuse is the issue, death is actually a relief. So, what I suggest is that we stop worrying about people dying and focus on the abuse and injury that's inflicted willy-nilly just because it is "less than lethal."
    Keep in mind that we are issuing weapons to law enforcement and hailing them as an improvement because they are "less than lethal." This is the kind of thinking that is consistent with the widely held belief that "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger." In other words, we are turning abuse into a positive, instead of condemning it as evidence of man's inhumanity to man.
    Assault has to be aggravated to be considered more than a misdemeanor. That means it has to cause observable, permanent damage. That's why the "interrogators" in Iraq were trained to inflict internal soft-tissue injuries that couldn't be seen. In other words, it's easy to make assault legal and that's why abuse persists.
    If abuse, physical and/or psychological, weren't considered a minor infraction in the law, which has to be observed by an official witness to be prosecuted at all, we wouldn't have to pass special legislation to "protect" women and LGBT and children and animals, making special provisions for special populations and, in effect, affirming that whoever isn't covered by an exemption is liable to being lawfully assaulted as long as it doesn't leave a mark.
    Abuse and assault need to be recategorized as serious crimes. For that matter, while a homicide may well be accidental or unintended, the same cannot be said for abuse and assault. Which means that the latter should not only be considered more serious, but makes it imperative that they be stopped. When abuse is in evidence, it's a matter of the prelude being more significant than the main event.
    When authority stands silent in the face of abuse, it becomes complicit. That's also true of the law. The deprivation of human rights under cover of law needs to be reversed.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 01:57:53 AM PST

    •  hannah, that was incredibly unsympathetic. (2+ / 0-)
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      Villanova Rhodes, chimene

      And uncalled for.

      Come back when it's someone you love, and see how you feel then.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 12:35:27 PM PST

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      •  Death cannot be prevented. Abuse can. n/t (0+ / 0-)

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 01:39:12 PM PST

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        •  You don't get it. (2+ / 0-)
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          Villanova Rhodes, chimene

          For you it's theoretical.  Easy to write long theoretical screeds on it.

          But for Vetwife--it's her husband's LIFE at stake. She LIVES this. You first line was appalling. And she said so too.  

          Learn  some compassion and an awareness of other's feelings.  Maybe the lack of that is why I normally skip your posts.  Yes, everyone dies--but no one should die because of cruelty and incompetence--and REAL PEOPLE have REAL FEELINGS.

          Like I said, when you've actually had to deal witht he los of someone you love, you MIGHT understand--but I amnot betting on it.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 01:56:36 PM PST

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          •  it is very hard to watch the vulerable be abused (0+ / 0-)

            knowing THEY WILL DIE from it and Hannah I did not accept the comment you wrote.
            Thanks irishwitch.

            We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

            by Vetwife on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:40:12 PM PST

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