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    The Fair Labor Standards Act specifies an hour's work for an hour's pay.

    This is the law, and can not be voluntarily surrendered, even with the agreement of the worker.

    •  Would calling it a volunteer opportunity... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...rather than an externship change that legal situation?

      If it wouldn't, then how doesn't that make all volunteering illegal? If people can't voluntarily surrender their own right to an hour's pay for an hour's work and they're doing something for a nonprofit organization that someone might have been paid to do, then wouldn't that nonprofit be in violation of the FLSA?

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 05:16:47 AM PST

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      •  I don't consider the "nonprofit" designation... (0+ / 0-)

        ...to be an appropriate excuse for avoiding compensation for work performed.

        Take the Salvation Army thrift stores as an example. Those stores are making beaucoup bucks, with cash registers ringing continuously. Those thrift stores have some real " paid staff". But lots of their labor comes for free from "volunteers" and people with community service requirements that are part of their Probation. Anybody who is stocking shelves, hauling furniture, or loading trucks should be paid at least minimum wage, regardless of their claimed "voluntary" status.

        •  So you think that if I want... (0+ / 0-)

          ...to go to a soup kitchen on a free Saturday and ladle out soup for the hungry, I shouldn't be allowed to do that for free?

          The soup kitchen should be legally required to divert some of its funds from buying the ingredients needed to make the soup in order to pay me, when I would otherwise be volunteering?

          If that is what you're suggesting, your idea would essentially destroy the charitable sector.

          "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

          by JamesGG on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 09:56:23 AM PST

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          •  If a soup kitchen has a need for a cook... (0+ / 0-)

            ... or dishwasher, then this person should be compensated as a proper employee.

            Insisting that "volunteers" be allowed to take the place of actual workers just opens the door to exploitation of all.

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