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  •  So can water. (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    The point is, do you source your food carefully?  Or, do you have to go to a corporate grocery chain, supplied by an industrial farm, where, because of government regulation, every producer has to do the same thing -- nuke their milk to ensure that it is safe?

    Anything can carry dangerous levels of bacteria, fruits, vegetables, and yes, even water.  So, the war on milk is all about protecting big producers whose industrial methods mean that cows never go outdoors, never look into the eyes of the person who milks her, and live in a confined space replete with urine, feces and the stench of ammonia.

    And people think that represents safe milk?

    Industrial food production in America ruins our health, our environment and consumes more fossil fuel than any segment of our economy.

    by Mi Corazon on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 05:07:20 PM PST

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    •  Ok, (0+ / 0-)

      but why not going small and local, but still pasteurizing?  What's wrong with pasteurized non-RGBH?

      •  Nothing, Really (0+ / 0-)

        Raw Milk farmers might claim that its an inferior product, or a product that doesn't jive with their moral and ethical makeup, but - provided sanitation standards are up to code - I don't think many people would claim that it's bad for you.

        •  I guess I just feel like (0+ / 0-)

          the implication here is that it's one extreme or another.  Like raw milk is being portrayed as the only alternative to pasteurized milk with RGBH.  I certainly got that impression from the diary itself.

          I also don't understand why you can't have pasteurized milk that's done in the same humane way that raw milk is, but it just happens to go through the pasteurization process.

          •  You Can, With One Exception: It's Not Raw (0+ / 0-)

            You can pasteurize organic milk in a perfectly sanitary dairy. There's nothing stopping anyone from doing that except scale. The larger the business is, the more difficult it may become to upkeep sanitation. Size could start eating into profits, and nowadays, when 95% of our food supply is produced by companies instead of farmers, its often shareholders who decide how the business is run. So they cut corners or start injecting their cows with rBGH to increase profit.

            Of course, not all dairies do that. My concern is that raw, locally-sourced milk is healthy, and many of the arguments being made to discredit it resemble fear-mongering. The consequences of that type of discourse could result in fewer opportunities for consumers, many of whom prefer raw milk and the opportunities it provides.

            Not everyone digs this world we've inherited. A lot of people would prefer natural alternatives that promote local commerce.

      •  Local Commerce Will Suffer (0+ / 0-)

        That's for sure.

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