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  •  As long as the Rethugs control the government... (6+ / 0-)

    They will do everything they can to put more and more restrictions on the technology.

    Simply by pricing out of the hands of the masses...  

    If you don't believe me on that one... how much do YOU pay for your internet access?  Now double it.  If you can still afford it with no problems, double it again.  Continue until you cannot afford it.

    That's the point Republicans/corporatists are aiming for, and remember that's the FREE MARKET at work.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 09:39:20 AM PST

    •  Yeah do that (4+ / 0-)

      And watch sales drop through the floor. Too many people buy stuff online now. They get bills online. They bank online.

      There are also multiple ways to access everything. Lots of people who don't get regular broadband to their house still access the net - but they use cell phones.

      You're not getting rid of it now. That genie is sooooo out of the bottle.

      •  I'd like to believe that. (0+ / 0-)

        But honestly, this feels a bit like a Roman saying "They'll NEVER get rid of the Roads.  Too many people use them."

        I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

        by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:05:50 AM PST

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        •  They DIDN'T get rid of the roads (2+ / 0-)
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          They evolved.

          We still use some of the Roman methods to build roads.  We just use different materials to surface them.

          Though not that different - the Romans did have concrete. And they built structures with it that lasted til today.

          •  We still use some of the actual Roman roads eom (2+ / 0-)
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            Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

            by Mokurai on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:47:30 AM PST

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            •  True. Bad choice of example. (0+ / 0-)

              Roman engineering far outlasted their empire.

              Mea Culpa.

              A better example might be the US space program.    Didn't take much to turn a vibrant and forward looking technology into a holding pattern, with rapidly declining capacity.

              I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

              by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:52:08 AM PST

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          •  In some ways Roman concrete was better than (0+ / 0-)

            modern concrete.  It didn't have the resistance to shear that modern concrete has, mind you.  But due to its lack of rebar (which rusts over time, fracturing the concrete as it swells) and its incorporation of volcanic ash (which helps create a more water-impermeable mix), Roman concrete has a far longer lifespan than modern concrete.  It's also lower CO2 to make.

            Modern concrete is kind of going back to that to some extent.  You can now get non-ferrous rebar for concrete which won't decay, and I've seen where people have used mixes that incorporate volcanic ash or fly ash (wasteproduct of burning coal with a similar composition to volcanic ash).  I'm in the very early stages of building a custom house (still hunting for a lot that I can get a building permit on, lol!), but I plan to strongly look into both concepts.  Especially that here in Iceland, volcanic ash is quite abundant  ;)

    •  But they don't, they haven't, and they can't (2+ / 0-)
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      Popular pressure has turned back many assaults on the Internet, such as SOPA and PIPA, and will continue to do so. Remember, the Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it. Even North Korea, the last holdout in the world, has announced a plan for public Internet, starting in universities.

      I am one of the authors of How to Bypass Internet Censorship, now available in Russian, Chinese, Arabic, Farsi, Vietnamese, and English.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 10:40:41 AM PST

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      •  Only through constant vigilance. (2+ / 0-)
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        It's only a matter of time till one slips through.  We can keep hoping and fighting, but I strongly feel the moneyed interests in this country have a strong reason to want to get rid of the internet.

        At least in its current incarnation.   Shopping online, distraction, all good things.  I expect more "Registration" and "Restriction" rather than actively losing it.

        Minor things, like requiring your bank account be linked to your internet...  and if it goes below a certain balance, or there is a "Reasonable suspicion" of "unapproved activities"...

        I don't trust much anymore.

        I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

        by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:08:34 AM PST

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    •  Rather hard to do (3+ / 0-)
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      There's nothing that stops people from laying down their own infrastructure.  That doesn't happen now because there isn't enough profit margin, so you have an oligopoly between the big telcos and cable.

      For example (not the only one), satellite links aren't viable for Internet use because of the long latency to geostationary satellites.  But what if, instead of one expensive satellite 25,000 miles out, you launch a large number of cheap satellites in low orbit?  It's not the satellites that are expensive, it's the cost to put them in orbit.  But that's going to be dropping fast (sooner or later all those private sector space companies are going to realize that launching satellites is the cash cow that pays for everything else).  Once you have a cheap way to launch satellites, a 200-satellite orbital grid in 100-mile orbits becomes feasible.  Now you've got a global network outside the reach of any government.  Incorporate in a friendly country (Iceland would be excellent) that will give it the equivalent of what a Caymans bank account gets.

      That's hardly the only way (it's the only one I can come up with fast, but I'm sure there are a million other options).

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