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  •  I'd like to believe that. (0+ / 0-)

    But honestly, this feels a bit like a Roman saying "They'll NEVER get rid of the Roads.  Too many people use them."

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:05:50 AM PST

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    •  They DIDN'T get rid of the roads (2+ / 0-)
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      detroitmechworks, Eyesbright

      They evolved.

      We still use some of the Roman methods to build roads.  We just use different materials to surface them.

      Though not that different - the Romans did have concrete. And they built structures with it that lasted til today.

      •  We still use some of the actual Roman roads eom (2+ / 0-)
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        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:47:30 AM PST

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        •  True. Bad choice of example. (0+ / 0-)

          Roman engineering far outlasted their empire.

          Mea Culpa.

          A better example might be the US space program.    Didn't take much to turn a vibrant and forward looking technology into a holding pattern, with rapidly declining capacity.

          I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

          by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:52:08 AM PST

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      •  In some ways Roman concrete was better than (0+ / 0-)

        modern concrete.  It didn't have the resistance to shear that modern concrete has, mind you.  But due to its lack of rebar (which rusts over time, fracturing the concrete as it swells) and its incorporation of volcanic ash (which helps create a more water-impermeable mix), Roman concrete has a far longer lifespan than modern concrete.  It's also lower CO2 to make.

        Modern concrete is kind of going back to that to some extent.  You can now get non-ferrous rebar for concrete which won't decay, and I've seen where people have used mixes that incorporate volcanic ash or fly ash (wasteproduct of burning coal with a similar composition to volcanic ash).  I'm in the very early stages of building a custom house (still hunting for a lot that I can get a building permit on, lol!), but I plan to strongly look into both concepts.  Especially that here in Iceland, volcanic ash is quite abundant  ;)

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