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  •  I'm trying to think of a successful nation (8+ / 0-)

    ...that is not largely socialist.

    Anyone?

    I'm stumped.



    Denial is a drug.

    by Pluto on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 06:40:48 PM PST

    •  I think Denmark for example should more (1+ / 0-)
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      properly be called a welfare state with heavy taxation and
      national healthcare, etc. but it's still largely capitalist.

      I think for socialism to really work there should be worldwide socialism.

      "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

      by Wildthumb on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 08:09:40 PM PST

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      •  Even China is largely capitalist. (1+ / 0-)
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        When you think about it. Big time.

        I judge a successful nation by the standard of living that families toward the bottom enjoy. And I judge them by social mobility and child wellbeing at all levels.

        Denmark is very much a social democracy. A socialist state. All socialist states are capitalist states. They engage globally as capitalists and business persons in an array of commerical ventures.

        It is socialist because Denmark makes a huge investment in human capital. That's what socialism is. They invest in health, education, culture, civic events, family leave, long paid vacations, child allowances, low wage support, beautiful public spaces and streets for society to gather, public arts, and transportation and sustainability.

        That is the very definition of socialism.

        Some call that a welfare state.



        Denial is a drug.

        by Pluto on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 09:47:56 PM PST

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