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  •  That was Vietnam. (1+ / 0-)
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    Do you really think Obama would have run for a second term if he were bogged down in a war sending 200-300 Americans home in a body bag each week?

    I sometimes wonder if Truman really wanted to call it quits after two terms or realized that Korea was killing him.

    Context is everything.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 05:21:39 AM PST

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    •  I understand it was Viet Nam (0+ / 0-)

      but from a political point of view, he didn't take the measures that were needed to survive politically on that issue.

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      by KibbutzAmiad on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 05:39:33 AM PST

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      •  There was no way to survive politically on that (2+ / 0-)
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        issue.

        He might have survived had he never escalated the war, but once we were all in, he was screwed.

        In a way, he was like the French with the Maginot line at the beginning of WWII. Vietnam was the first TV war, and the rules of the TV age were not yet known.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 05:44:02 AM PST

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    •  And facing a challenge from the left (2+ / 0-)
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      by RFK, who would have beaten LBJ and succeeded JFK.

      •  Good point -- a charismatic challenge with (0+ / 0-)

        a magic name and a claim to Camelot.

        Just as well for him.  By the time the 1968 convention was done -- Chicago style! -- so were the Democrats.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 08:25:51 AM PST

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