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    You do know that you're proposing an honor system, right?

    When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

    by Patrick Costighan on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 08:44:56 AM PST

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    •  Records kept by gun dealers, or police (1+ / 0-)
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      can be subject to supervision and surveillance, so no, I don't consider options like those to be an honor system. Key word was 'enforceable'.

      We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

      by tytalus on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 09:05:47 AM PST

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        Records kept by buyers and sellers can be subject to inspection with a warrant, and their maintenance enforced by threat of prosecution.  If that setup amounts to an honor system, so does yours; both rely on people abiding by the law and transferring firearms through a tracking system.

        You may say your setup is more convenient for law enforcement (though even that's doubtful given technology available to us today).  It certainly involves less physical and legal hurdles to prevent abuse.  But it is still an honor system by your own definition and the inability to distinguish its auditability from a private tracking system.

        When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

        by Patrick Costighan on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 09:14:05 AM PST

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        •  Yep, there's the word-twisting (1+ / 0-)
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          Even though the effectiveness and accountability in using gun dealers and police is obvious even to you, you wish to equate them with clearly less effective options. That's what I expected. You're essentially advocating a system that would be harder to use, weaker on enforcement and more prone to abuse.

          We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

          by tytalus on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 10:11:17 AM PST

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