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  •  I take it to mean we each pay for ourself- (34+ / 0-)

    here is the quote from the press release

      Funded fairly:  Instead of individuals and employers paying high premiums, deductibles and co-pays, the coverage would be funded through a graduated tax on payroll and non-payroll income based on ability to pay.  Today, an insurance company wants the same premium whether they're covering a CEO or a receptionist, a successful company or a start-up just getting by.
      A business-friendly solution:  Single payer reduces costs for business - large and small - by eliminating the need for any employer to provide health coverage for its workers.  That would make New York dramatically more job-friendly, especially for small businesses, start-ups and low-margin businesses, while offering better and more secure coverage to every New Yorker.

    Oh for crying out loud!

    by 4mygirls on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 12:51:02 PM PST

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    •  This is the key to provide a level playing field (20+ / 0-)

      to the sole proprietor, the small firm that subcontracts some of their work, and just gets more and more important, the larger the business goes.

      It will sidestep the games of dropping hours to keep part-time employees inelligible for benefits and create incentives for employers who want to offer good plans to actually negotiate with the insurers.

      If they can't negotiate a better plan than what is offered by the state then an employer shouldn't be operating in the insurance brokerage business.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 03:50:55 PM PST

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      •  Weaseling is disgusting and something that happens (11+ / 0-)

        here as well, since anything that is permanently 20 hours and over requires health care.  I work 20 hours but not during all of the year, ergo I'm not covered. Whatever the rule, the penny-pinchers will weasel around it.

        At any rate, this is a massive step forward, given that NY state has a good percentage of the American people. It is not a small, exurban state like Vermont. But even where this is only a symbolic victory for progressives, and changes materially nothing this is still a victory.

        I wrote before that we can have most of the people in the United States covered by single payer by the end of the decade. It's only 2013, and it's still possible. Once you get Massachusetts, California and Illinois on board, it will be a rolling wave. And don't forget the Pacific Northwest and Minnesota and New England. It is possible. It is worth fighting for. Not all of our victories need to start nationally. For progressives, historically, they often didn't.

        Governments care only as much as their citizens force them to care. Nothing changes unless we change -- George Monbiot.

        by Nulwee on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 09:10:21 PM PST

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      •  I wish I could rec this about 100 times. (EOM) (5+ / 0-)
    •  I'm not entirely convinced that this is the best (0+ / 0-)

      way to fund it but I guess there are drawbacks to other systems of collection, like increasing the sales tax.  

      BTW, how does France, the UK or, say Sweden, pay for their systems?  

      We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

      by theotherside on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 06:44:59 AM PST

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