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  •  Well stated, jm214, and thanks for the book recs, (9+ / 0-)

    especially the Schroen volume. Obviously, we've had a major CIA problem for decadess. Unfortunately, I don't see anything changing for the better under PBO on this score. Here's a snip from a Glenn Greenwald piece in the Guardian in January

    Prior to President Obama's first inauguration in 2009, a controversy erupted over reports that he intended to appoint John Brennan as CIA director. That controversy, in which I participated, centered around the fact that Brennan, as a Bush-era CIA official, had expressly endorsed Bush's programs of torture (other than waterboarding) and rendition and also was a vocal advocate of immunizing lawbreaking telecoms for their role in the illegal Bush NSA eavesdropping program. As a result, Brennan withdrew his name from consideration, issuing a bitter letter blaming "strong criticism in some quarters prompted by [his] previous service with the" CIA.

    This "victory" of forcing Brennan's withdrawal proved somewhat Pyrrhic, as Obama then appointed him as his top counter-terrorism adviser, where he exerted at least as much influence as he would have had as CIA Director, if not more. In that position, Brennan last year got caught outright lying when he claimed Obama's drone program caused no civilian deaths in Pakistan over the prior year. He also spouted complete though highly influential falsehoods to the world in the immediate aftermath of the Osama bin Laden killing, including claiming that bin Laden "engaged in a firefight" with Navy SEALS and had "used his wife as a human shield". Brennan has also been in charge of many of Obama's most controversial and radical policies, including "signature strikes" in Yemen - targeting people without even knowing who they are - and generally seizing the power to determine who will be marked for execution without any due process, oversight or transparency.

    Regarding Afghanistan: we need to bring our troops home.
    •  The challenge now is to educate, re-educate actual (2+ / 0-)
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      ly, enough people to compel some kind of actual real healthy change --

      No more bully bullshit! no more ripping lies! If we keep up this business, the whole country dies!

      We've seen where Empire leads, like Rome, the various Reichs -- the sorry fuckers who have taken us down into this long dark valley are doing, personally, just Great! when it comes to money and influence and people calling them for advice. Is there any stupid reason, other than stupidity and bovine acquiescence at being slaughtered to lard the already groaning tables of the Few, after we trample out other peoples' vineyards?

      Remember that the Bourbon aristocracy took their wealth to Austria before the guillotines got to work. And of course the Nazis, after pumping up all that nationalist shit about the Exceptionalism of the German Volk, took as much of the portable wealth of Europe, including art treasures and tons of gold from the teeth of those they suckered their tools into gassing and cremating, as they could stuff into aircraft and submarines and "neutral ships" and toddled off to Argentina and of course the US, where many of them became "valued assets" of the OSS/CIA...

      Spread the word. Spread the word. Spread the word. Even the shock troops for the Tea Party are capable of getting really pissed off at being "had" by the few, if only they can be made to listen and see...

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 at 12:10:48 PM PDT

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