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    coal-fired plants almost exclusively, or at least appear that way after the fact. And what court battles? Recent? Within Obama's tenure as President?

    Besides that, how would those affect the consideration of NG replacing coal?

    Your contention is the implausible one. That regulations reduced CO2 emissions irrespective of demand and a replacement for coal.

    Do you think government said, you have to reduce emissions by x amount and the power generators discovered they had just the right amount of NG handy and at a just-so-happens-to-be low price? No. Cheap NG is recent and the EPA is proud of producing regs that demand only what is possible.

    It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

    by Fishgrease on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 01:53:56 AM PDT

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      Clinton enacted the soot rules on 7/16/97.  That had very little to do with the price of natural gas today

      The rules have been in court since then ( along with the Clean Air Interstate Rule, etc...)..

      BTW, FG, I think you are the funniest writer on DK.  Thanks for that.

      "Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist."

      by oregonj on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 01:05:05 PM PDT

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        and then the two conference calls I was on were nearly a year into the Obama administration. (I said outer orbit).

        No. Natural gas had nothing to do with Clinton era regulations. How could anyone think I was implying that? NG hit $16 per mmbtu in places back then. Today it is $3.50 where its been for about 3 years.

        Natural gas DOES have something to do with limits associated with current controls.

        One of the most frustrating things I've ever done is try to read some of those, btw, because they do apply to part of my job at times. It's the exceptions, oh jeez, the exceptions. There are exceptions where you can emit more tons of carbon and exceptions where you can emit less. Every one of those exceptions (my theory here, not my "story") is that those were fought for by individual Congresspersons and of course lobbyists.

        It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

        by Fishgrease on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 01:49:42 PM PDT

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