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  •  I was was just reading about Ruby Ridge incident (1+ / 0-)
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    The Ruby Ridge Rules of Engagement (ROE) had been drawn up on the basis of reports from USMS and FBI headquarters, bolstered by unconfirmed news media accounts accepted by HQ, that exaggerated the threat posed by the Weavers.

    1.    If any adult male is observed with a weapon prior to the announcement, deadly force can and should be employed, if the shot can be taken without endangering any children.
    2.    If any adult in the compound is observed with a weapon after the surrender announcement is made, and is not attempting to surrender, deadly force can and should be employed to neutralize the individual.
    3.    If compromised by any animal, particularly the dogs, that animal should be eliminated.
    4.   Any subjects other than Randall Weaver, Vicki Weaver, Kevin Harris, presenting threats of death or grievous bodily harm, the FBI rules of deadly force are in effect. Deadly force can be utilized to prevent the death or grievous bodily injury to oneself or that of another.

    Running away was not considered a "threat to others".

    But I have three other concerns that trouble me more:
    1.  Drone strikes are conducted in secrecy, by the CIA.  You will never hear from a defense lawyer following a CIA assassination (drone strike or other).  Unlike Ruby Ridge, there likely will be no Senate investigations -- or if there are, they will go nowhere because of CIA secrecy.
    2.  Relying on CIA threat assessments: The CIA let itself be used to justify a multi-trillion dollar war.  The stakes couldn't have been higher.  Does anyone trust the CIA to not make mistakes, to not let itself be used?
    3.  There is no fundamental difference between a drone, .50 caliber rifle or poison tipped cane.  Eric Holder has claimed the Administration may use the CIA to kill any American citizen anywhere as long as they are an "imminent threat".  And I guarantee you do not think "imminent threat" means what the Administration thinks it means.

    Even Democrats can be asses. Look at Rahm Emanuel.

    by Helpless on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 05:19:49 PM PST

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