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  •  If you want to keep it a "hidden jewel" (1+ / 0-)
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    RiveroftheWest

    as someone described it above, the worst thing to do would be to make it a monument or national park!

    Not every bit of beautiful land in this nation needs those designations anyway.  IMHO, the National Park Service does not need to own and regulate every bit of interesting wilderness.  They own/run enough that is representative of land of this type.

    From what I have read about this area, there is more than enough guidance online and most report there are usually a very low number of visitors to the area - especially considering how vast it is.

    Not everything needs to be regulated.. "OMG!1!! Kids having fun! Let's regulate them!"

    •  opinions are what they are. . . (1+ / 0-)
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      RiveroftheWest

      Bon Temps, so thanks for posting your comment. Fair enough. Instead of me stepping into this potential quagmire I think SUWA (Southwest Utah Wilderness Alliance) - see particulars below - are much more versed in what's really going on in this area, and I doubt many others really know the facts about why this setting needs protecting. Even if some other private organization took it over, fine; but right now it's not just about kids having fun and regulating everyone else. I'm not sure you even realize the damage that has been done, or will be done, given your sentiments. So, why not contact the people who really have been invested in this fight for a long, long time. I'm the messenger and I happen to believe their story is credible. You, on the other hand, have your own mind on the matter, so maybe reaching out to these folks will be helpful. Maybe not. But it can't hurt to learn something beside what you already know and feel is right, as policy. Thanks, again, for posting.

      Membership and General Questions: info@suwa.org
      Website Questions: website@suwa.org

      Treat the world (yourself, and others) as part of a living organism. Everyone and everything will benefit.

      by richholtzin on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 12:32:49 PM PDT

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    •  my experience has been that the national monuments (1+ / 0-)
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      RiveroftheWest

      here in utah are pretty devoid of visitors. the national parks, with the exception of canyonlands and capital reef, are overflowing with folks. So i vote national monument. :)

      another great diary....i love the swell.

      "None of us got where we are solely by pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps" Thurgood Marshall

      by UTvoter on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:09:31 PM PDT

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      •  I'm with you. . . (1+ / 0-)
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        RiveroftheWest

        the census I have recently checked shows exactly the same thing. I never intimated the Swell would be suitable for a NP, but a NM status, yes. . .that works best for everyone. One thing's for sure given the majority of the comments posted on this diary and that is most people favor protecting the swell from over grazing, mining, and of course ousting the OTV's and such. You'd have to contact SUWA to find out just how much damage is caused by folks thinking they can runabout anywhere they like. . .because so far they can. And I know, anytime someone comes down on such machinery and riders in open spaces there's hell to pay as rebuttals. I'm ready. The evidence supporting noise and environmental pollution is overwhelming, same thing with vandalism. Thanks for posting your comments, as always, UTvoter.

        Treat the world (yourself, and others) as part of a living organism. Everyone and everything will benefit.

        by richholtzin on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:55:21 AM PDT

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