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  •  I second the hope that your diary gets a wider (5+ / 0-)

    audience. You've done the hard work and laid it out for us, which I appreciate. (And I have learned is a given in your diaries.) It's hard to believe people would do such horrible things to another human, much less a child. I think it's child abuse, and in some cases amounts to torture.  It reminds me of the deliberate psychological breaking of a person's will and spirit, and it should be illegal to do to a child. Can't do a lot if you willingly sign up for the abuse as an adult. Children can't form consent (fully grown thetan inside or not, it's one of those pesky legal things. snark)

    I'm kinda surprised that someone on the inside hasn't staged a coup, using the bad publicity angle to get rid of Miscavige.  Guess when you rule by fear and psychological torture it takes longer for the discontent to rumble up an alternative.  Frankly, I hope the lawsuits keep coming and are enough to bury them. (Like the blow SPLC dealt a branch of the KKK).

    What frustrates me is the subsidizing of religion that is done by the government using our tax dollars.  I get the benefits for the churches.  What benefit is it supposed to do us, average Joe citizens?

    Re MHP and the "takes a village" controversy: amazing what chains of illogic a sanctimonious, persecuted, and paranoid outlook can do to prevent rational thinking.  But isn't the whole idea of owning a child traced back to the Bible?  After all, you can stone a child, or sell one.  Both options require ownership as a prerequisite.  I am always amazed at how frequently Christians who claim to worship Jesus completely ignore the lessons he taught.

    "In politics stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte

    by citylights on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 09:40:51 PM PDT

    •  Some of the top leaders have left Miscavige's (4+ / 0-)

      church, like Marty Rathburn who was number two, and formed their own breakaway church of Scientology.

      I don't know how much better it can be, since they still use Hubbard's teachings.

      The fact that our tax dollars support this con game irritates me more than the fact we support other religions. Perhaps because they have become so flagrant in their attempts to fleece their flock, and anyone else they can get their hands on. Like the addicts who turn to Narconon expecting to get helped.

      We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty - Edward R. Murrow

      by Susan Grigsby on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 09:59:19 PM PDT

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      •  Oh, I completely agree with both your (4+ / 0-)

        assertions. Thanks for reminding me of the Rathburn splinter group.  You're right; as long as they use the same orthodoxy, the best they can say is we're not as bad as Miscavige.

        I agree, as well, that Scientlogy (and do they not see the irony of science in their name?) is the worst of the tax-exempt religions.

        "In politics stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte

        by citylights on Mon Apr 15, 2013 at 11:34:22 PM PDT

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      •  There have been a number of splinter groups (2+ / 0-)
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        over the years. The oldest is the "California Association of Dianetic Auditors". Founded in 1951, it actually predates the incorporation of the current Scientology organization. (All of the earliest ones went into bankruptcy & were shut down. Which says volumes about Hubbard's business skills.)

        The CADA has a website here. For many years they kept a low profile, & spent most of their time fighting for survival against CoS harassment; if the website is correct, the CADA is attempting to attract new members & actually exist as a group. (Whether they can be a truly benevolent organization is an open question, awaiting further evidence.)

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