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  •  If the top eco/climate scientists consider the (0+ / 0-)

    Keystone XL pipeline extremely damaging to the climate and very important to have it stopped, I'll go along with them. Check out Bill McKibben and James Hansen on the subject.

    Obama's actions on fuel efficiency haven't kicked in yet and the tar sands are producing pet coke which is dirtier than coal.

    It's the American people who have decided not to drive as much, either because they can't afford it, because of peak car or for the climate, or...

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      it's certainly important, and I trust their judgement as well. Still, coal power plants are the top source of CO2 and the bigger picture on oil is to reduce consumption from ALL sources.

      •  "reduce the oil" is already happening that's the (0+ / 0-)

        good news.

        If Jim Hansen tells you that if the Tar Sands continues to its proposed 8 million barrels a day, it's "game over" then he thinks it is worse than coal. It's killing a carbon sink, it's destroying a source of fresh water for the continent.

        What is this game? When I post about fracking, I get "coal is worse" and about tar sands "coal is worse." As if there is some kind of rule that only the worst possible danger to the climate is worth discussing.

        Tar Sands has surpassed coal in green house gas emissions because of its byproduct pet coke.

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