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  •  Um, both. (6+ / 0-)

    Dr. Who has been on for like 30 years. They keep changing up the cast as the mythology permits that.

    Hopefully ...... soon, Mom. My political compass: - 8.38,-6.97

    by pucklady on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 05:51:13 PM PDT

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    •  Try 50 years this November. (8+ / 0-)

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

      by zenbassoon on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 05:59:38 PM PDT

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      •  Wow. (5+ / 0-)

        "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

        by StellaRay on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 06:00:12 PM PDT

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      •  it is from a time long ago (4+ / 0-)

        A time when people assumed people would never want to see the same show twice, or watch something they had missed the first time.  So they destroyed the tapes.   It is so mind-boggling and sad that you can only laugh.  Luckily some episodes survived in various bizarre fashions, but 106 episodes are still missing except for audio because a fan taped the episodes on a tape recorder.

        •  They're working on a project to animate (1+ / 0-)
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          the missing video.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

          by zenbassoon on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 07:17:58 PM PDT

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          •  The logical inconsistency (2+ / 0-)
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            As I am probably one of the very few here who watched the first episode live, I should point out the logical inconsistency in the Doctor concealing the Tardis in a junk yard when its chameleon circuits meant it should have blended into the background. Those circuits failed on arrival in London so the Tardis has been stuck with the outer appearance of a police telephone box since.

            In a (much) later series, the Master's Tardis is disguised as (IIRC) a long case clock.

            All of this is complete nonsense to anybody who is not aware of the series.

            BTW, the new run starts at the end of the month.

            "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

            by Lib Dem FoP on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 08:58:23 PM PDT

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            •  And a Corinthian column. But I think they came up (1+ / 0-)
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              with the chameleon circuit story at a later date.  All we have is Hartnell acting all surprised that the TARDIS didn't change its shape when they went into the past.

              "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

              by zenbassoon on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 09:14:10 PM PDT

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              •  Yes (1+ / 0-)
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                and if you notice in the first episode the Doctor's granddaughter claims to have made up the name TARDIS but of course the term was in use by the Time Lords way before.

                "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

                by Lib Dem FoP on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 09:42:37 PM PDT

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                •  hartnell (1+ / 0-)
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                  I've been recently watching the first 2 seasons.  I don't think Doctor Who has been real big on continuity.  It seemed at times they weren't acting like he had 2 hearts etc., and the whole existence of Susan doesn't really jive with more recent understandings of the doctor.  Also see the whole issue of the Doctor's age.

            •  my DH watched the first episode live also, in (1+ / 0-)
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              Vancouver BC, when he got home school, aged 8 or 9. hooked immediately, 8-)

              he tells me LOTS of the surviving older episodes have been found in Canada, because the Canadian TV people didn't send the tapes back to the UK!

              there was also, according to fan legend, one particular administrator at the BBC who decided he didn't want to waste storage space on "kiddie show" tapes. never been identified, possibly (CT!) because this horse's patoot later became a big wheel...

              "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

              by chimene on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 10:35:04 PM PDT

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              •  Not only TV (2+ / 0-)
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                The space needed and cost involved in storing tapes for both TV and radio meant a huge chuck-out.

                BBC Radio 4extra has this problem with some of the 1950s-70s programming it is re-broadcasting and they have had to remake some programmes entirely using actors with similar voices to the original players.

                "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

                by Lib Dem FoP on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 10:58:54 PM PDT

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    •  Doctor Who started in 1963. (7+ / 0-)

      It hasn't been on for all 50 years, but it turns 50 this year. BBC is even making a movie about its creation.

      into the blue again, after the money's gone

      by Prof Haley on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 06:03:10 PM PDT

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      •  BBC4 (2+ / 0-)
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        The "movie" is one of a series of one-off (if that makes sense) 90 minutes shows depicting either the creation of classic TV series (they did one on "Coronation Street" and "Steptoe and Son" - remade in the US as Sanford and Son) or biopics about British actors - two being Kenneth Williams and Hattie Jacques. These usually crop up irregularly on their "thinking" channel, BBC Four.

        There were a couple of movies in the early days of Dr Who including one, Daleks Invasion Earth  where Peter Cushing stars as the Doctor and a sidekick is played by Bernard Cribbins who went on to appear in several series of the new run. He was also considered for the role of the fourth Doctor.

        "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

        by Lib Dem FoP on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 09:38:46 PM PDT

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        •  I saw the Cushing film (1+ / 0-)
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          ages ago. I had no idea that BBC were doing more of these self-histories. Steptoe and Son? really? As an American I might be interested in "Til Death Us Do Part", but Steptoe must have a much bigger following in Britain than Sanfiord ever did here.

          into the blue again, after the money's gone

          by Prof Haley on Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 05:12:51 PM PDT

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          •  Not quite (0+ / 0-)

            Coronation Street is still running and was made by an independent television (commercial) company. It started in the days when there were only 2 stations available in the UK (BBC and ITV). ITV used to consist of a fairly large number of regional companies contributing programmes to a central core network schedule. Most have now been absorbed into a single company - the exceptions being Scottish Television (STV) serving central and north Scotland and Ulster Television (UTV) in Northern Ireland.

            I believe "The Curse of Steptoe" is available on DVD though this may only be in PAL format.

            "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

            by Lib Dem FoP on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 10:58:52 PM PDT

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