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  •  Indeed, that's why Wayne mentions (4+ / 0-)

    the 'private transfer' and that background checks would 'criminalize' them. He also has good message discipline on this 'criminalize' notion, although from my POV it's a tacit admission that private sellers will not comply and will break a background check law if passed. That's the only way it would be 'criminalized'.

    We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

    by tytalus on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 03:02:50 PM PDT

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    •  They are already ignoring the law. (6+ / 0-)

      I'm very proud of New York's recent change to implement best practices and require gun show operators to use a tagging system for inventory management.

      Every gun that goes into a venue will be tagged. Every gun that anyone walks out with will be checked to see if it was sold, and whether a background check was performed.

      The gun show operator is also required to hire sufficient security to police the parking lots to reduce private sales in the parking lots.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 03:06:47 PM PDT

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      •  Also why straw purchasing needs dealt with (4+ / 0-)

        Hoping to see that survive, since it made it out of the Judiciary committee first. I wonder if this ATF info is still accurate.

        http://www.pbs.org/...

        ATF officials say that only about 8% of the nation's 124,000 retail gun dealers sell the majority of handguns that are used in crimes. They conclude that these licensed retailers are part of a block of rogue entrepreneurs tempted by the big profits of gun trafficking. Cracking down on these dealers continues to be a priority for the ATF. What's needed, according to Wachtel, is better monitoring of the activities of legally licensed gun dealers. This means examining FFL paperwork to see where their guns are coming from, and making sure that those guns are being sold legally. But he says, "Let's be honest. If someone wants a gun, it's obvious the person will not have difficulty buying a gun, either legally or through the extensive United States black market."
        And still, lots of guns slip through the existing loopholes easily...we have no business allowing it to remain so easy.

        We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

        by tytalus on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 03:23:40 PM PDT

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        •  Exactly so any proposed amendments that (3+ / 0-)
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          prohibit the ATF from conducting periodic unannounced inspections of FFL inventory and paperwork is a gift to criminal gun trafficking (as opposed to legal gun trafficking - that currently goes on a gun shows).

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 03:50:04 PM PDT

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    •  Some of these guys are really dealers - (3+ / 0-)
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      If universal background checks are passed, the "don't ask/don't tell" operations would have to stop.

      But because there are no firm limits on how many guns a private seller can buy and sell, "dealer" is not well defined.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 03:11:48 PM PDT

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