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  •  I am always uncomfortable (2+ / 0-)
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    with anachronistic comparisons. The "community" he gathered was held to very high moral standards, his "law of love" not withstanding. The moral behavior of Christians is expected to be higher than any required under civil law or even common courtesies. Read the section of the Sermon on the Mount following the popular Beatitudes. That's tough stuff. I think we can reason through to a just society without reference to Jesus. & I write as someone who loves him wholeheartedly.

    "There ain't no sanity clause." Chico Marx

    by DJ Rix on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 02:59:38 PM PDT

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    •  High standards depending upon what you... (1+ / 0-)
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      desire for the end results...  selfishness is what the basic tenents of Jesus teach...  and unconditional love is at the core of it...  

      God does not need very much from us, He does not require much except we respect each other...  as far as I read.  

      i remember a conversation with a fellow once who went on about how many of the teachings of Jesus had already been quoted in other societies.  Truth is truth in any language.

      I am just wondering why does the mention of the name of Jesus upset people so?  We don't hear as much against some who did dastardly things...  Jesus only did good according to the record...

      though you are on point that the teachings of Jesus go beyond temporal life which is what grinds on most people...

      I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

      by meknow on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 04:16:47 PM PDT

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      •  Respecting each other (1+ / 0-)
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        is where Christians are expected to begin. I don't expect the governments, local, state & national,  to deliver social services with love. I just want them provided justly, & to a far greater extent than our governments currently do, & without the terrible inequities that are allowed to exist between different states.     In my city, if one goes to St. Joseph Social Service Center (an independent Catholic agency) or Coalition to House the Homeless (a secular agency, although it shares resources with St. Joseph), one will find  help, advocacy, & love wrapped together. The people at St. Joseph, as the old Hebrew National hot dog commercial said, "answer to a higher authority." & it isn't the Archbishop or the Pope.

        "There ain't no sanity clause." Chico Marx

        by DJ Rix on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 07:03:04 PM PDT

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        •  I agree with this DJ Rix... (1+ / 0-)
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          The bible talks about the earth and the world.  The earth is what God created.  The world is the system that evolved after man decided to do things on his own.  

          We see the ability and ambition of man is almost boundless to a fault.  Nimrod and Babel...  Nuclear power...  The financial system that many say is tweeked and manipulated by a few...  

          The one thing that can turn everything around in NAmerica is job creation.  Do people realize the trend over the last 20 years to streamline business and manufactoring to up corporate earnings.  The idea in and of itself was a stroke of genius by man in efficiency.  They did it and did it well.  

          Less man power and more mechanization.  Man is awesome when he wants to do something.  These are the same men who fein inability ("unwillingness) to give in to production rates (which means earnings rates) as opposed to Environmental Protection.  Which goes to what you said about what we can expect from the government and business (the wealthy).  Signs on those doors ban Compassion, and Justice and Truth only enter when a law suit is threatened...

          Remember Jesus said that the Love of money is the Root (or beginning, base, setting...) of evil...  Money is good, in this system we created we can't exist without it or entitlements.  Jobs...

          I saw where people who had over a million dollars were polled about giving to charity...  one of the answers that a large percentage gave for not contributing is that they want to be certain they can maintain their life style as opposed to giving to people who are poor and needy...

          I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

          by meknow on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 04:47:00 AM PDT

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