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  •  No one under 21 can buy a handgun. (5+ / 0-)

    That's federal law.

    Between 18 and 21, they can own a rifle. It's important to keep that clear.

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 05:13:54 PM PDT

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    •  And no one under 21 can buy beer (4+ / 0-)
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      Which didn't stop me when I was in college, nor my sons, nor virtually any other college student.

      "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

      by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 05:17:41 PM PDT

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    •  But state laws are more lenient (3+ / 0-)
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      In December, Wonkblog had this post The 6 craziest state gun laws, including this craziness:

      1. Concealed carry at 16 — with no permit: Most states that allow people to carry a concealed weapon on their person require gun owners to obtain a permit before doing so. But four states — Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming and Vermont — allow concealed carry without any permit. That means, the Brady Campaign’s Brian Malte tells me, that Jared Loughner was in full compliance with Arizona law up until the moment he used his concealed weapons to kill six people and severely injure Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

      Vermont, however, stands out from the pack because it allows people as young as 16 to conceal carry without parental permission, as well as buy handguns. So a Vermont teenager aged 16 can’t legally go to an R-rated movie alone or join the military, but he can buy a handgun and carry it in his jeans and be completely within the limits of the law.

      That was confirmed by a DKos RKBAer and Vermont resident, who posted a comment that he would raise the age to 18 but leave the rest of that law intact.

      My jaw dropped.

      We cannot mistake absolutism for principle, or substitute spectacle for politics, or treat name-calling as reasoned debate. -Pres. Obama, 1/21/13

      by SoCalSal on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 10:03:22 PM PDT

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      •  In the article I reference above (1+ / 0-)
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        (which was published in 2010) fewer than half the states prohibit sale of a firearm to someone intoxicated.

        Bear in mind, that a number of states have changed their firearm laws since 2010, but that is just so depressing to me.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 12:58:47 AM PDT

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        •  Horrified is my reaction. (1+ / 0-)
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          and mystified by the apparent conflict between federal and state gun laws. No time today for any online research for answers.

          We cannot mistake absolutism for principle, or substitute spectacle for politics, or treat name-calling as reasoned debate. -Pres. Obama, 1/21/13

          by SoCalSal on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 07:54:24 AM PDT

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