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  •  I like Gillibrand very much (2+ / 0-)
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    every time I see her speak, I note this..ie recurrant phenomenon

    I'm in MA and I think Deval Patrick is spectacular. He's going back into the private sector he says after his term is complete. I really wish he wanted to continue in politics. His wife does not like it, I think.

    •  I'm watching Kirsten also. She's been a (0+ / 0-)

      great surprise. She's 46, would be 50. VP? Then 2020 or 24? Whitehouse and Brown are also good possibilities.

      I am really, really uncomfortable with Hillary's actions the past two months. She never had the vision for the job and I do think age really matters for some people. Warren is 2 years younger and looks/acts 10. She doesn't speak Orwell.

      People like Bernie Sanders and a few others can keep the vision thing as long as they live. With the world on the brink of so much disaster, younger visionaries who formed their worldview 20 years after Clinton need to be taking leadership positions.  

      As far as I am concerned, the SCOTUS age needs to be limited to <76, for the same reason.  And because people who are not in elected positions can continue to work as long as they want and can. The elected or appointed ones can do what Carter, Clinton and Gore have done. Staying in the pressure cooker doesn't do them much good.

      I'm in Iditarod withdrawal. There are people who run it in their 60's, 70's and even 80's (Norman Vaughn, bless his determination, had to be rescued and told he could not run again.) Some do well, 73 year old retired pathologist came in #35 out of 54 completing this year's race. Politics, from campaigning to legislating is something like racing and training. You can't let up, and in the race, it's all or nothing.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:13:11 AM PDT

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      •  what have you not liked of HRC last two months? (1+ / 0-)
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        She got tourista, got dehydrated, fainted (probably when she stood up) and hit her head. It happened to my cousin as well...very common. Unfortunately HRC got a pretty significant concussion..she had to wear those special glasses.
        Then she testified in Benghazi hearings a month later. I guess I"m not up on her doing much else last two months.

        •  Going from saying she wasn't interested in (0+ / 0-)

          a '16 run to doing stuff that suggests she is strongly reconsidering. Nothing in an official capacity.

          The LGBT announcement is great. If it is positioning, I'm very concerned that the people who think she's the cat's meow, that we should elect her because she would wipe the floor with any GOP candidate, etc. will cut other contenders out too early. The GOP does not have a good candidate. The ones their base will vote for can't attract enough to win without cheating. I think Holder is on that.

          I'm an RN since '77, critical care, home care, other stuff. I didn't think it wasn't a standard bleed for a couple of reasons. Still clearly not an issue since she was allowed to go home. The bleed they found later was a little unusual, not as threatening as other problems could have been.

          I wasn't that impressed with her Benghazi testimony. She never struck me as being able to communicate well enough or being that strong an administrator.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:10:36 PM PDT

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          •  I like that you keep an open mind (0+ / 0-)

            I don't think she's amazing. I like her. I like that she got a lot of respect in her role as secy of state, not only from us here but from foreign leaders it seems. It could be just the Clinton name, I suppose.

            So she seemed to be a competant Secretary of State. I try to think about what else makes me think so, really, and it's pretty soft data.

            I admit I am enamored  with wanting a female President. Not enough to be blind though.

      •  What didn't you like about HRC's actions (1+ / 0-)
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        over the past few months?

        Was it the part where Republicans tried to make her the scapegoat over Benghazi, only to get their heads bitten off?

        Or the part where she endorsed same-sex marriage?

        Perhaps it was the part where her final speech as Secretary of State was to urge the use of "smart power", rather than military power, to project and increase US influence abroad? Real shocker, that.

        If you said you don't like her, I'd say, "fair enough". If you said you were uncomfortable with her legacy ties to the corporate sector, I'd agree (although I don't think they're overwhelming) that it's a fair concern to have. If you expressed dismay at her hawkish attitudes in the Senate, I'd counter with her dovish actions in Foggy Bottom.

        But you picked the one period in her political life where she hasn't been triangulating, hasn't been pissing anyone off.......why, again?

        "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

        by Australian2 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:55:07 AM PDT

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          jplanner.  Her DLC mindset is not what we need next. On top of the lack of vision and age, which I know a lot of folks get upset about.

          I've worked with the elderly since '75, first in nursing practicals and since in critical, home care and PACE - which is specifically for the elderly. People age differently for many reasons. One of the most common is stress. She's been in a pressure cooker for 20 years, only 8 in the slightly less pressured Senate.

          She will be very close to Reagan's age span. I'm not willing to have someone that old in the WH again. It is far too much stress. Younger generations are the ones with a world view that is closer to what is and what will be than she does.

          I am far more concerned with the emotional attachment to Hillary than what a lot of people thought Obama attracts. He is a powerful speaker. The degree to which people were anticipating a lot of action was totally unrealistic to me. I have concerns about some things, there is a lot to learn in 4 years and more than the usual for him.

          First, I thought it was rude to tell someone who has worked as hard as she has and said was not interested, that 3 years is enough rest. Then they want her to start campaigning for that job, and do really well for 8 years.

          We need someone with good speaking, messaging and the will to get as much done as possible. It will depend on the '14 congressional vote and the '16th. Too many things can't be postponed much longer. Financial collapse could be '15, or earlier.

          I've read a lot of political tomes in the past decade. Read her book almost at the beginning. I had really liked her going into HCR, then she blew it. Some of that I got through nursing channels. Then with a sense of discomfort, I went on to other subjects, authors.

          Every so often something she had been involved in was relayed. Most of it was financial (including how ridiculous the Whitewater investigations were) and I don't remember those details. I think mostly in conjunction with Bill's big booboos. The one I do remember is still uncomfortable. Are you familiar with The Family? It wasn't just the specific influence, it was that she was involved at all, however superficially.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:57:01 PM PDT

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