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  •  Also, imagine (0+ / 0-)

    a Jewish candidate who was seeking donations from anti-Semitic interests and in return promising to not push the "Zionist/NWO agenda."  That's what Demaio was for gay people.

    "...and as I learned higher joys, so I learned neither to harm, nor to wish harm upon others." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

    by KingofSpades on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 06:07:11 PM PDT

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    •  That's only a traitor (0+ / 0-)

      if you think you know what's best for gay people.  I wouldn't consider any of those people to be traitors.  I'd just be puzzled how they could think that way.

      20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
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      Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
      UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

      by jncca on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 06:09:25 PM PDT

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      •  Why is it being traitor? (0+ / 0-)

        Seeking support from groups and interests based on hate against people like you and playing along with their conspiracy theories to win their support (despite believing otherwise yourself) is traitor to a cause, people, culture, what have you.  Surely you would think so if there was ever a Jewish candidate who was endorsed by Stormfront and spouted their lines in return for their support.

        "...and as I learned higher joys, so I learned neither to harm, nor to wish harm upon others." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

        by KingofSpades on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 06:13:57 PM PDT

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        •  No, I wouldn't. (0+ / 0-)

          Jews are not a cause or a side.  You literally can't be a traitor to Jews because unlike the Continental Army, Jews aren't a single, unified group.  There are Jews for Jesus.  There are ultra-Orthodox Jews who don't want Israel to exist.  There are "self-hating" Jews (I detest that term for the same reason I detest calling DeMaio a traitor).

          20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
          politicohen.com
          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

          by jncca on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 06:21:59 PM PDT

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          •  I think that (3+ / 0-)
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            this is starting to derail the discussion.  We can debate the semantics of "turncoat" and "traitor" all day, but I think it's very clear that all wwmiv meant was that Carl DeMaio is a gay Republican who is against gay equality to pander to conservatives.  That fundamental contradiction is undeniable, and appalling.

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