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  •  Good morning y'all (39+ / 0-)

    JEERS (and I had to capitalize the word) to everyone in the poll. The damage those people, and all the other sycophants and enablers, did to this country and to the people of Iraq is beyond calculation.

    I recall the feeling of helplessness as we careened towards war, knowing that only a miracle would stop the neocons from having their way. And I'm realistic enough to know that there ain't no such thing as a miracle. So here we are, ten years later, still dealing with the aftermath. As we will be another ten years from now as well.

    •  so true. (22+ / 0-)

      Although I was naive enough that at the largest protest on that frigid February day on the Washington Mall, I was telling my friends "There's no way we will invade Iraq. It's too obviously a mistake on moral, economic, and strategic grounds." Guess it wasn't obvious to those who had the power.
      And you're right about dealing with it for generations. Can;t unring that bell, much as we might like to.

      To keep our faces turned toward change, and behave as free spirits in the presence of fate--that is strength undefeatable. (Helen Keller)

      by kareylou on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:35:49 AM PDT

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      •  I told my family and friends when Dubya (15+ / 0-)

        was "elected", watch out, we're going to war.

        "With whom?" was the usual response.

        "Anyone they want," was my response.

        Then 9/11, and I told them, "Here we go."

        The radical Right was drooling for war long before it happened. Desert Storm was a taste. Their appetites were whetted.
        I, too, felt helpless as I heard the drumbeat and saw the flags waving.
        I'm a pretty loud guy, but even my voice was drowned out by the fear-fueled fervor.
        I was saying, "Wait. Let's find out who really did this first. Let's not react until we have the facts."

        I guess facts are for liberal wussies. I guess I'm not a patriot in the current mold (a fact I'm quite proud of). I guess I was right and they were wrong. I wish there was some comfort in that last one.

        I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

        by Gentle Giant on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:19:17 AM PDT

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        •  I was with you on strong reservations about "W". (7+ / 0-)
        •  It was pathetically easy to know ... (5+ / 0-)
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          ... what these criminals were going to do.

          Throughout the entire 2000 election season, from GOP primary to the presidential race, I tried to direct as many people as I could to PNAC's website.  At the risk of going all Godwin on this, I felt not unlike how I imagine some in the 1920s may have felt about telling people to read "Mein Kampf," because it was all there for anyone to see but nobody was listening.

          PNAC wanted a new age of Americal imperialism, it was ridiculously obvious their #1 choice was Iraq, and the page of founders was lousy with names of the Cheney maladministration, from Cheney himself to Wolfowitz to Kristol.

          On 9-11-01 I was working three hours from home, and my husband & I were kinda focused on working out the best response, from Plan A to Plan B to an assorment of fall-back positions.

          Then we talked briefly about how long it would take the shrub's handlers to figure out how to blame the attacks on Iraq.  Eventually it came out that Cheney was directing people that very day to do that very thing.

          He's gonna die peacefully in his own bed surrounded by a host of grieving descendents who will inherit millions of bloodstained dollars.  Perhaps I'm being unfair, but I'll bet they will do nothing to mitigate his evil legacy.

          Scum.  Bastard.  Criminal.

          "The fears of one class of men are not the measure of the rights of another." ~ George Bancroft (1800-1891)

          by JBL55 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:17:10 AM PDT

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        •  The night of the 2000 "debates"... (3+ / 0-)
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          ... I journaled a rant that if Dumbya were elected we would be at war with Iraq, the country would go into a recession..., then said I didn't see how anyone could vote for any person as stupid as he is.

          Jeez, was I wrong about that last part.  Well, okay.  He was installed in the first term and I'm not sure what happened in OH with the e-voting machines for the second term.  Given Dumbya's rank and obvious stupidity, why the hell did anyone actually vote "for" him?!?

          Worse:  What the hell is Obama doing by continuing the Bushista war policies?  Why haven't the pertinent bills that took away our rights been repealed to give us back our rights (instead, they've been extended!)?  Why is our Constitution and Bill of Rights still pretty much null and void?


          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:10:26 PM PDT

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