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  •  Why exactly is it a kindness to a victim for (6+ / 0-)

    no-one to know her name?  Does secrecy not imply there is some reason to feel shame?  Is it because a known victim of rape is likely to be victimized again?

    Why is it society at large is unaware of the extent to which children are victimized by sexual abusers and rapists? Because when cases are brought to trial, the proceedings are largely secret. It's supposed to "protect" the innocent, after they've already been violated, from what, exactly?  What it actually does is prevent the public exposure of predators. What it actually does is prevent the allerting of the general population to the fact that bad people target the innocent and unaware because it part of their M.O. Predators attack the young because there is less risk of injury. Predators are cowards.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 02:24:57 AM PDT

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    •  I'm not the right person to address this to, (3+ / 0-)
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      since I'm not the one making the argument you're questioning. I think there are valid points on both sides, and that the effect of such policies on crime reporting rates is an empirical question to which I do not have the answer. I have no firm opinion on the issue, although I do have an opinion on the hypocrisy displayed in several diaries about it.

      In this particular case, the only evidence I have for whether it is a kindness to the victim not to spread her name around any more widely is that she herself is not stepping forward to do so. But neither did she shrink from testifying in open court. With relatively little evidence, I conclude it's not something she wants people to do but that this insult pales in comparison to what she's already endured.

      You might want to weigh in here, where the question is met squarely:

      Comment re ID disclosure

      •  It's not a pressing curiosity. It's just (1+ / 0-)
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        something I wondered about ever since I was involved with children who'd been abused by relatives and parents. They certainly knew what had been done to them. Having it addressed in secret proceedings seemed to provide no benefit to the victims. Both the perps and incompetent prosecutors and social workers seemed to get more since their behavior was not exposed to public scrutiny.

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:52:29 AM PDT

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    •  Her privacy is hers, not ours (5+ / 0-)

      Revealing her name without her permission is taking something else away from her that should be her exclusive right to control.

    •  Not giving the name protects the victim (4+ / 0-)
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      DianeNYS, Tonedevil, Neuroptimalian, koNko

      from being further victimized by hate mail and threats and stalking and worse by misogynists and idiots just like the ones who are currently attacking her for being raped and having the temerity to protest.   Having her name out there broadens the pool of attackers to the whole world.  

    •  Because it will be abused (0+ / 0-)

      By people not wishing her well, predators of another sort.

      Has already happened in the general public space with the negative blow-back and death threats, adding her ID to that would only give these assholes the means to direct them to her family personally and possibly worse when their home address became known (inevitable these days).

      What special value does knowing her name, verses just the facts of the situation, add?

      Wouldn't it be better for her to decide if to go public on her own terms if she wishes to do so?

      IOW, who has the right to control that information?

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:48:51 PM PDT

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