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  •  To a point (9+ / 0-)

    I agree that a good number of the Nos on the PPACA fit that category.  I watched the roll call live, and once we hit the magic number, a whole bunch of Dems voted no, meaning Nancy was able to free them.

    However, I don't see any evidence that voting against the minimum wage would help them any.  Blue Dogs, being the most vulnerable, need to point to accomplishments or at least noble defeats to differentiate themselves from their general election opponents.

    That said, the Democratic Party's identity as a moderately liberal party will survive this particular roll call, for the reasons you mention.

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:42:11 PM PDT

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    •  Don't know any of them in particular (2+ / 0-)
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      But I can conceive of circumstances where voting against could help someone, if their district includes one or two major businesses/industries/employers  that are adamantly opposed.

      "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

      by Catte Nappe on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 02:24:49 PM PDT

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      •  Respectfully, I thought that they were supposed to (1+ / 0-)
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        be representing "the greater good."

        Not their own selfish interests.  

        That's exactly what's wrong with the system now.

        Mollie

        "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible."-- Frank L. Gaines


        hiddennplainsight

        by musiccitymollie on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:35:54 PM PDT

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        •  Part of the "sausage making" (5+ / 0-)

          If the vote in question won't affect the outcome anyway, and a vote for/against could negatively affect the 'critter, the strategy of party leadership is often to bless a vote counter to the party policy (and the broader constituency).  This is not a totally bad thing. It lets a supporter "live to fight another day" - on votes where they can make a substantive difference.

          "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

          by Catte Nappe on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:00:55 PM PDT

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    •  it lowers the %age of "voted (1+ / 0-)
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      with Pelosi" which is used in campaigns. And other rankings.

      It does no harm. But if you are in any of these guys districts call them and complain. If they don't hear from people they won't know of their dissatisfaction.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:23:05 PM PDT

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      •  Sure, (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm not holding this against them, particularly much, but I certainly don't have newfound respect for their political acumen.  It's too fine a line between being scared of a line of attack, not being able to counter it, and thinking it's actually right. Put another way, why be in Congress as a Democrat if you're scared of voting to raise the minimum wage?  Compartively moderate as i may be, i have my standards, know whats bending and whats breaking.  Anyway, why not go balls out -- if you win reelection anyway, you're a hero; if you lose, the money's better.  Disclosure: I am not in Congress.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:54:35 PM PDT

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