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  •  If it were framed that way... (0+ / 0-)

    I would have had less problem with it. However, her gender was not part of the story. The diarist is positing that being married to a black man should give her insight, not her gender.

    On the other hand, I have been wondering if it is because a lot of people do not actually visualize American woman as being oppressed, as having suffered severe oppression quite recently. Therefore, to understand oppression, you have to be a racial minority rather than a woman.

    Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

    by moviemeister76 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 04:16:06 PM PDT

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    •  I don't want... (1+ / 0-)
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      to beat this poor horse into hamburger, but... I see your point about American women being oppressed, I even agree with you. You just seem to be willing to completely overlook the amazing similarity of the two situations and the closeness in time of the struggle. Until 1968 the woman in question would have faced a very similar legal situation as gay people do today yet she is willing to pull up the drawbridge for those behind. I think that is the point of the diary.

      This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

      by Tonedevil on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 04:24:59 PM PDT

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      •  And that's exactly it. (2+ / 0-)
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        This diary points out massive similarity in the situations just to object to the fact that race was brought up instead of gender.

        People of all kinds can be hypocrites - this diary does not say otherwise. It points out the stunning similarities in this specific situation, and makes its point.

        It is what it is - if the situation did not have the similarities it did, I would not be pointing them out.

        Peace on Earth. Farewell to men.

        by ElsieElsie on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 04:31:04 PM PDT

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      •  I am not overlooking it (0+ / 0-)

        I am also not surprised by it. I see hypocrites like this all the time. I also study history, so I have read about a ton of hypocrites. I am just tired of the narrative that black people have some special insight to oppression, much more than any other group, and therefore if you are a black person or related to one, then you are a worse hypocrite than usual for not wanting rights for gay people. History is full of certain people getting the right to do something then immediately pulling up the drawbridge behind them.

        Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

        by moviemeister76 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 04:32:56 PM PDT

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        •  I don't believe... (0+ / 0-)

          any different information has been passed in the last couple of posts between us. At this point I don't have anything to say that I haven't said already. I don't understand your attitude toward the diarist or this diary. History being full of certain people getting the right to do something then immediately pulling up the drawbridge behind them is certainly true, but it doesn't make it OK and it still compounds the violation.

          This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

          by Tonedevil on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 04:55:36 PM PDT

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