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  •  WHy can't the Mayor reach w/o over-reaching? (6+ / 0-)

    There has to be rapidly effective Constitutional ways to protect our neighborhoods, women and children from gun violence and our men from brutal abuses by the police.

    The Mayor and NYPD must protect Brooklyn neighborhoods from murders like the one that took 34 year old Zurana Horton

    ...a Brooklyn mother who tried to protect a group of school children from harm by shielding them....

    Horton died instantly from a shot in the face and chest when she attempted to protect students from gunfire. Horton was the mother of 12 children.

    Three teens were arrested for murdering Zurana Horton in front of her child's school as school let out for the day. A "gang shooting"
    Lopez was reportedly aiming for an 11-year old girl whom he was in a dispute with over a cell-phone.

    The 11-year old girl survived an injury on her arm and graze wound on her face.

    Stop and Frisk is NOT the solution. It's ineffective and a violation of rights. Hopefully the laws and police abuse will change. But the same voices also demanding local solutions for safety deserve real solutions. We can solve difficult problems and dangerous threats within the rule of law and the Mayor has the opportunity to change course and show what it takes.    
    •  I've talked about gangs here before (6+ / 0-)

      the why's, the how's and what needs to be done.

      Stop and Frisk does nothing to stop gangs.
      I've attended police community board meetings too - when folks are really upset about certain crimes in their neighborhoods.

      Things were starting to get better under Dinkins when he put more cops on the beat - ones familiar with certain neighborhoods - who were also earning the respect of residents.

      Then came Giuliani, and it's been downhill ever since.

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      by Denise Oliver Velez on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 10:58:33 AM PDT

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      •  Something seemed to defang LA gangs... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...and there are multiple narratives. Of course one is that the worst  were either killed or incarcerated...or grew up.  Another one is success by police-community-gang liaisons. The real threat of  being shot mistakenly when waiting in line to get into Manuel's for the family to share one of his historic Hollenbeck Burritos is gone. I'm too remote to make any conclusions other that that parents, schools, jobs, and decriminalizing drugs are essential components for high street crime communities. We tolerate a lot of crime in America, but not street crime.  

        •  I really can't comment these days (2+ / 0-)
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          about the LA,/ West coast situation.  Years ago I attended conferences with West coast gang outreach workers.

          According to the LAPD gang activity is increasing.

          But why would I trust the LAPD any more than I trust the NYPD?


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          by Denise Oliver Velez on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 11:36:31 AM PDT

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    •  Chicago has an answer (6+ / 0-)

      The "Ceasefire" intervention program reports big successes.

      Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

      by Dogs are fuzzy on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 11:40:29 AM PDT

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