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  •  it's broken because the left ignores RW radio (6+ / 0-)

    there can be no fact -based objective discussion of any major issue as long as thinking americans allow the corporate think tanks the supreme unchallenged luxury of being able to blast 50 mil people a week with partisan coordinated scripted messaging from 1000 of our loudest radio stations and create whatever constituency they want within days.

    add that to 25 years of building an alternative reality of lies, myths, and altered history.

    and those radio stations use public airwaves, are heavily dependent on our major universities and schools, and are licensed to operate in the public interest.

    the political system is broken because the left has given RW radio a free speech free ride for 25 years.

    americans need to get serious about talk radio and destroy the monopoly before 2014.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 07:21:07 PM PDT

    •  You're Mistaking Democrats for "the Left." (8+ / 0-)

      Media policies favoring corporate RW dominance have been passed by both parties.

      A party that passes RW policies is not "left."

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 08:03:19 PM PDT

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      •  semantics. the last 25 yrs has been dominated by (1+ / 0-)
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        RW radio.

        that means intimidating dems as well as republicans. that means defining where the perceived political center is and how liberal is too liberal in the primaries. what is acceptable and what isn't.

        most of those blue dogs sit in states dominated by a few RW megastations that dems are completely disconnected from.

        you want to get rid of corporate and blue dog dems? stop  ignoring the radio- any attempts by dems to push media and election finance reform are beaten back, largely with the essential help from those radio stations, fed and coordinated with well designed propaganda campaigns.

        it started with the fairness doctrine and then clinton was hamstrung. it's even more refined now against obama.

        everything the 'left' wanted from the democratic party the last 25 years has been compromised because of its stupendous ignorance of RW radio 's dominance in politics.

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 08:34:48 PM PDT

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      •  I don't know why this point (2+ / 0-)
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        is so difficult for people to grasp...

        A party that passes RW policies is not "left."

        The law, in its majestic equality, gives the rich as well as the poor the right to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to eat dumpster donuts. - With apologies to Anatole France

        by chuckvw on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 09:28:24 PM PDT

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        •  arguing the democratic party is not left enough (0+ / 0-)

          while ignoring talk radio is pointless.

          the reason they're passing RW policies is because the 'left' allows the right to define where the 'center' is.

          their best tool for making left and liberal unacceptable has been talk radio, and the left and liberals allow it.

          the democratic party will go 'left' fast if the left stops giving the right a free speech free ride on public airwaves.

          this is still  somewhat of a democracy and because there is no response to RW radio, representatives and their offices, especially in rural states where talk radio dominates, feel obliged to respond to the talk radio base screaming into their phones as if they are a legitimate constituency in their community.

          one thing the 'left' has to do is monitor radio and make the content readable and searchable so that dems and media  know when the screaming is not legitimate and is largely coming out of the RW think tanks and through limbaugh and hannity's asses.

          This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

          by certainot on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 08:18:57 AM PDT

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    •  And cave paintings. We're really failing to (0+ / 0-)

      dominate cave paintings.

      Not to mention obelisks covered in hieroglyphs.

      The fight over the AM dial is slightly less relevant than the fight over telegraph feeds.

      income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

      by JesseCW on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 12:58:25 AM PDT

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      •  the debt 'crisis' , 'benghazi' , tea party, health (0+ / 0-)

        care reform defeats, gun control have dominated parts of our political environment the last few  years and all were primarily talk radio driven defeats for the left.

        talk radio still kicks internet ass when it comes to messaging and MSM management and it looks like 2014 will come and go and talk radio will play an important part and the left and dems will whine again afterwards about how the irrational insane teabaggers (the talk radio base) are able to obstruct progress.

        it's really senseless to ignore the opponents best weapon just because it fits outside the 'hot' technology

        like ignoring the other guy's cannon because you've got an assault rifle.

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 07:54:44 AM PDT

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        •  Yet, the majority of voters vote Democratic at (0+ / 0-)

          all levels.

          The higher turnout gets, the larger that gap gets.

          The people are already on our side.  It's about who is on the ballot.

          income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

          by JesseCW on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 02:25:52 PM PDT

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          •  why even let it be close enough to steal? why not (0+ / 0-)

            fix the problem?

            and as far as who's on the ballot, guess who decides who's too liberal? they've been doing that for 25 years locallly and nationally.

            nothing moves the perceived 'center' to the right better than 121000 coordinated radio stations.

            This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

            by certainot on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 05:31:28 PM PDT

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            •  Why not understand that the problem isn't (0+ / 0-)

              Right Wing Radio, it's Right Wing policies?

              When all you've got is a stone hammer....

              income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

              by JesseCW on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 07:37:03 PM PDT

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              •  right wing policies don't have shit w/out RW radio (0+ / 0-)

                that's the point

                you may have an i net ar15  but the guy with the stone hammer snuck up behind you, dude

                This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

                by certainot on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 07:43:27 PM PDT

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                •  They don't have public support. Why would you (0+ / 0-)

                  think this was about winning public support when policies that are opposed by 80 or 90 percent of the public are shot down and policies opposed by 70 or 80 percent cannot get forward motion?

                  The problem is not that the people are duped, by radio or any other media, into accepting right wing policies.  The people reject those policies already.  

                  Setting aside how archaic and irrelevant AM radio is, and how few people under 50 ever listen to it for any purpose, we already convinced the public.  The majority is on our side, whether we're talking about background checks or a Public Option or a minimum wage hike or protecting Social Security.

                  The Money Power still has what it takes to buy senators.  And fighting over who gets to draw cave paintings doesn't change that.

                  income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

                  by JesseCW on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 07:57:07 PM PDT

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                  •  1% uses 20% and the radio gives them the volume (0+ / 0-)

                    of 50%. that's all they need.

                    variously over the last 20 yrs 15-25% of people say they get their news from talk radio. yes it is fading. but ignoring the weapon that's beating the crap out of dem politicians and media and pushing them right is bad strategy.

                    the groundwork volume and repetition for all major opposition to progressive reforms starts on radio. maybe you live in a coastal city with plenty of alternatives but if you head inland you'll hear the local RW stations that often dominate local politics.

                    the left has allowed the 1% to put carnival barkers on every corner and stump in the country to scream all day that liberals are liars and thieves and traitors and distort their ideal and principles and the left just walks by with their iPods in their ears- it's fucking stupid not to get in their face.

                    radio completely dominates many small pop states with 2 senators each.

                    if it was about what the people want why are elections that should be no brainers so close?

                    why have neanderthals taken over the GOP? why do they win elections?

                    democracy was designed to handle billionaires/kings. senators can't work directly for billionaires in large numbers without being thrown out. the last 25 years RW radio has allowed the billionaires and their think tanks to short circuit democratic feedback mechanisms and  create made-to-order constituencies to enable and intimidate media and politicians. that's what the talk radio base/teabaggers are- a fluid well-disinformed fear-motivated constituency that listens to radio, get visual reinforcement from fox and internet, and misinforms people around them who are apathetic and ready to vote out of fear at the last minute.

                    many of the major reforms progressives want now have been on the agenda for decades but you won't get no-brainers like media or election or campaign finance  or single payer soon while ignoring radio.

                    and global warming won't wait for talk radio to fade away.

                    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

                    by certainot on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 07:17:05 AM PDT

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