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  •  Not True (6+ / 0-)

    That line was the only one I disagreed with. If only religions let just anyone make "new rules" like you can on Wikipedia.

    Only one of billions gets to be pope, for a decade or so, and must be vetted by one of the most thorough (however often fanciful) processes available: lifelong celibacy, anyone?

    I like Buddhism, the core principle of which is "we're imagining it all". One reason it's really a philosophy, not a religion (that several sects' religions are built on) is that not only can anyone make a new rule (so long as they truly believe it), but that principle is the core of the faith.

    Actual religions, certainly the ones with churches and hierarchies, always protect the rulemaking power most jealously.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 09:59:34 AM PDT

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    •  Protestantism, especially Evangelicalism, is like (5+ / 0-)

      Wikipedia: what you believe is a matter of personal conscience. And in evangelical Protestantism, anybody can start a church (like that woman who refused to tip her waitress did).

      For the RCC to consider you to be a "good Catholic" on the other hand, you are obligated to believe the doctrine that the hierarchy makes up, and you have no say in what that doctrine will be.

      American exceptionalism is America's road to perdition.

      by Alexandre on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 10:27:43 AM PDT

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      •  Interesting stuff (2+ / 0-)
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        Belief as a matter of conscience equals to Wikipedia?

        Strange logic here...

        A "good Catholic" for the RCC is the one who ignores his/her conscience, and follows the doctrine the hierarchy makes up, instead?

        Indeed ;)

        "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

        by zenox on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 11:46:38 AM PDT

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        •  According to the Church (2+ / 0-)
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          Yes, indeed the Church gives lip service to individual conscience, while damning to hell and excommunication anyone who follows their conscience against the orthodoxy whenever it's threatened by them.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 02:52:26 PM PDT

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        •  Try getting your baby baptized in a RC church (0+ / 0-)

          if you had it out of wedlock. I know a woman who left the church because of that: her priest refused to baptize her baby. I guess neither she nor the baby were good Catholics, as far as the church was concerned.

          American exceptionalism is America's road to perdition.

          by Alexandre on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 06:13:34 PM PDT

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      •  Not Just Anybody (2+ / 0-)
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        I don't think just anyone can start a church, call it "protestant", and get tax exempt status along with the rest of the privileges of existing Protestant churches. Even if they make sure to pray to Jesus in it, and aren't controlled by any other church.

        You can do it, but it's not equal to other churches. Try getting donations without the tax deduction. Try running a church without donations.

        All of this is yet another demonstration that tax exemption for any church, no matter its creed, is the reverse of both sensible practice and the actual meaning of the 1st Amendment. Indeed a church should be like any other private org, and anyone should be able to start one to practice any creed that doesn't otherwise violate the law. Without unfair advantages from the competition, officially recognized churches.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 02:51:24 PM PDT

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