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  •  True, the money supply is being artificially (0+ / 0-)

    restricted, rationed, in hopes of maintaining its use as an abusive tool. However, it doesn't have to be that way. In cultures where people's access to sustenance is not restricted by private property rights, they can sustain themselves quite well, as long as thieves don't take what they harvest for themselves.

    Property rights are a major culprit. But, I won't go into that now.

    Monetary certificates differ little from marriage certificates. The relationships they symbolize and formalize with public recognition can and do exist regardless of the certification.
    We owe sustenance to the next generation because the prior generation sustained us. That some people reject that obligation doesn't negate it. It just means that some people are self-centered anti-social beings. Probably got born that way. Maybe they were damaged in utero or on the way out.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 02:08:00 PM PDT

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    •  How can there be thieves without (1+ / 0-)
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      property rights?  Isn't theft, by definition, taking that which belongs to another?

      •  I don't think there has to be a claim to ownership (0+ / 0-)

        for thieving to occur. Some critters just sneak what they want. I tend to contrast thievery with exchange or sharing. Thievery is the way of the predator. When humans do it, it's really primitive behavior, especially since language makes it possible to inquire whether anyone else has a claim.

        Rights, of course, have to be respected to even exist.

        Are rights assigned or claimed?

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 03:24:12 PM PDT

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        •  rights are a function of power (0+ / 0-)
          Are rights assigned or claimed?
          A powerful person both assigns rights to less powerful people, as well as claiming rights against less powerful people.  A group of less powerful people claiming rights against a powerful person is attempting to increase its power and use it to reassign rights.  

          For most of human history, the only claim to rights (implicitly the rights of the aristocracy) that society respected was the fact of exercising them.

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