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View Diary: Great Moments in Totally NOT Racism: Karl Rove to Donna Brazile "You owe me some Fried Chicken" (47 comments)

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  •  Not sure what's going on here (15+ / 0-)

    Donna Brazil started it off with a reference to chilli, and Rove replied with a comment about fried chicken.

    Unless you know what the chilli thing was about, then it makes no sense to take umbrage about the reply. Who knows what they had joked about in another situation?

    •  Imagine you were on TV (10+ / 0-)

      would you ever dare to say something like that to a black woman on tv, even if you were friends?

      Would the thought not cross your mind that says "HEY! Maybe this isn't such a good idea! I'm on National Televison, maybe a Fried Chicken comment might be misconstrued."

      The fact that that thought never crosses Rove's mind, a guy whose CAREER is politics and messaging, the fact that he can blurt out "You owe me some Fried Chicken" to a black woman on national television without having that little thought beforehand is pretty newsworthy in and of itself, I think. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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      by MinistryOfTruth on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 12:55:47 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, to me the disturbing thing is the (19+ / 0-)

        coziness and camaraderie among the pundit class.  They don't take what they're saying seriously, it's just shit that they're paid to put out there - speaking up for their team.  

        To me, the ugliness of this is about the back-room (or more acurately, Green Room) chatter, where the side bet behind story was made.  What Karl is revealing is not hidden racism, but the unspoken collusion of the punditocracy.

      •  People like Rove are used to saying anyting.... (1+ / 0-)
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        without any repercussions, or getting called to the mat for their ignorance.  

        It's but another symptom of what is wrong with this country as a whole when we allow such uncouth individuals to appear on a major Sunday talking heads show and get MSM airtime.

        Pathetic.

        "Don't let your mouth write checks, your ass can't cash."

        by LamontCranston on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 02:40:58 PM PDT

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      •  Perhaps he cooks great chili and she (3+ / 0-)
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        specializes in fried chicken, and he has had it before and likes it - who knows?  It doesn't necessarily mean he was being racist.

      •  Too bad they were not talking... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... about my mother's fried chicken.  She made great fried chicken!  The comment would then be a compliment.

        At a picnic one summer my cousin who shares my birthday (youngest son of my mom's sister), came up to the cabin where the food was laid out for a buffet, dripping wet from the lake and yelled "Where's Aunt's chicken?"  As his mother recounts, she was ready to hit him over the head with a frying pan (joke; she was totally non-violent)..., she had brought chicken, too....  :-)

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 05:01:36 PM PDT

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      •  Oh, PS... I'm not entirely sure... (0+ / 0-)

        ... I get the whole fried chicken thing and why it's so racist.

        I'm from the Yankee Midwest, not all that far south of the Canadian border.  Mom made her delicious fried chicken rather often (really, not exaggerating, she made terrific fried chicken), it was a staple at family reunions, and when she and Dad had lutefisk for Xmas eve dinner, my brother and I wouldn't eat it, so Mom made us our favorite fried chicken for the Xmas eve dinner.

        Up until recent years and having to buy chickens at the store that were raised on big industrial chicken farms (the meat tastes odd because of the feed they're ingesting), the chicken meat used to be good and with leftovers one could make soup or just slice up the meat for sandwiches.  Back when I was a kid, we raised our own chickens every year, they were free-range, ate good grain as well as whatever bugs they encountered in the grass, and they were butchered in the fall to be put in the freezer for winter supplies of meat (along with a pig, half a beef, a deer that Dad shot every fall).

        Ditto turkey for T'giving and turkeys raised at industrial turkey farms.  The feed on those industrial farms makes the meat taste odd.  Some are filled with water and assorted preservatives and flavorings like MSG (guaranteed three-day migraine for me to eat anything with MSG).

        IF one lives in the country, it's far better to raise one's own meat, humanely kill it, use sanitary methods of prepping and cutting the meat, and freezing it.  The meat from free-range animals tastes much, much better.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 05:19:41 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly. This seemed to me like some kind of (11+ / 0-)

      inside joke between the two, and since Donna Brazile was clearly not offended, I don't think we should be either.  Whatever the inside joke was, she was the one who brought up the inside joke first.  Who knows how "fried chicken" came up in the inside joke between the two.

    •  I agree. Perhaps, others might think that Donna's (3+ / 0-)
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      comment about "Chilli" as racist because of the Tex-Mex connection where Rove comes from.  Until you know what he was referencing it seems just silly and nit-picking to say Rove was being a "racist!"  Real low hanging fruit.

      I have lived in a truly multicultural, multiracial society for over 60 years and would be astounded to hear complaints about an exchange like the one above.  In Hawaii, racial differences and cultural differences are celebrated and often characterized humorously without any rancor or hatred.    

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