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  •  So the over/under for how many human generations (3+ / 0-)
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    elwior, Cliss, Aquarius40

    we have to go once the marine life cycle and oceans collapse is...3? 2? 1?

    Then there will be this great gnashing of teeth and a lot of angry people screaming at politicians who lied to them and ignored science and told them what they wanted to hear...because of course the ones who didn't would have been soundly beaten on election day...or been woefully underfunded compared to the opponent paid for by the corporations...

    Blue is blue and must be that. But yellow is none the worse for it - Edith Sidebottom

    by kenwards on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 12:52:39 PM PDT

    •  Two generations I think (3+ / 0-)
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      elwior, Cliss, tampaedski

      The politicians and businessmen will be gone, spending millions to go out into space on virgin business space ways

      •  2 would be my over under (3+ / 0-)
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        Brooklyn Jim, Cliss, PeterHug

        But anyone close to my age (47) will see some serious environmental shit go down if you live another 20 or 30 years...

        It's not a "Slow Train Coming".

        And the ocean acidification, although a major issue, is not the only one.  As the growing season belts change, I suspect that the soils in different areas are not going to be very good for the plants that migrate or are planted to deal with the new temperature regimes.  Ethiopia in the mid 1980's might look like a warm up for the food insecurity that is (hopefully not) right around the corner.

        •  My concern is fresh water, we should be protecting (0+ / 0-)

          it.  But, the government is allowing it to be wasted on unnecessary things and allowing it to be poisoned at an astronomical rate by Big Ag.

          The water tables are not being regenerated because we are using too much water.

          GMO crops use over six times as much water as traditional farming.  Factory farm meat production and fracking waste trillions of gallons of fresh water every year and output almost as many gallons of toxic waste.

          To make matters worse, the Keystone XL pipeline will almost certainly leak into our rivers, lakes and aquifers.  Since the dilbit oil can't be cleaned and is toxic, the project is a disaster waiting to happen.  The NY Times reported that Lisa Jackson quit the EPA early because she did not want to be at the helm when Obama rubber stamps it.  She knows that this is an evironmental disaster of the worst order waiting to happen.  

          Bitumen crude is indeed different from the conventional variety. The goo has to be diluted with toxic chemicals to make it viscous enough to flow through a pipeline. Those toxins have caused reported health problems among scores of Michiganders. It’s also studded with quartz sand and other corrosive materials that effectively sandblast the inner lining of steel pipelines.

          What's really scary is the the Keystone XL is going to be running this toxic soup near the largest US aquifer, Ogallala, which supplies 82% of the drinking water to eight states, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Texas  AND about 30% of the water needed to irrigate the midwest's crops.

          I know people who won't work with OFA because Obama still refuses to oppose Keystone.  He's gonna split the party.  I don't know what he's thinking.  I wouldn't touch this project with a ten foot pole.  

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