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    I never said you don't have the right to call me a jerk (who's moving the goal posts again?) I said you can't expect people to always be nice and that disagreement isn't being a jerk.

    It's not.

    And even if it is, it's childish to imagine you can courtesy police all people at all times. Sometimes people, in the heat of the moment, don't finesse their arguments (go back and read your own post and tell me that's not true).

    Be a grown up. Take it in stride. Understand the adult position that when people disagree, they are often less than polite about it. So what? Have a little backbone.


    (See how I didn't whine and blubber about being called a dick and a hypocrite, even though I never once called you anything of the sort? That's called being a grown up. But just to be fair, Hypocrite much?)

    Like way too many people, you make weak and sophistic arguments -- actually not even arguments, just blanket declarations -- then whinge when people call you on them. You have a right to your own opinions, but you don't have a right to never be called on them. Just because you feel something deeply doesn't make you right.

    •  Yes, you did (0+ / 0-)

      whine and blubber -- by loudly announcing you're not whining and blubbering. Which is exactly what I expected you to do.

      Here's a hint: We all are dicks to people sometimes. We are also all hypocritical sometimes. Get over it.

      At the core of all your bluster, however, is a fundamental fallacy: That disagreement requires disrespect, or rather, that one can hide disrespect in the cloak of disagreement. That's fundamentally false. One can say "I don't believe in religion and I don't see the value in doing so" without saying "You are religious, therefore you're deluded." The former is making a statement about your beliefs. The latter is insulting someone else for disagreeing.

      And ya know what? If you want to do either, that's your right. It's also my right to tell you that if you're doing the latter, you're being a dick.

      Don't like it? Well then, quit whining and blubbering at me for disagreeing with you.

      We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

      by raptavio on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 08:44:35 AM PDT

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